From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9035E139085 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A7E02340BB; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-x243.google.com (mail-qt0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67B782340B5 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-x243.google.com with SMTP id a29so12259890qtb.1 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 12:06:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=HRuLooeAvR9A+a7xSCXqhDQQCyYWaTLgy0HKPJ++2mI=; b=qTSZSKzLIe9KjeIDq+Eh8Ar/x52GgiIlwD2AvBPn77MhufzzQCpvI0dKADh2kNcc15 362bvUYOfQlSDqX7VUFFZ+ExrAixRGsb/npFvEQLeg18S+48iYmwXwd1QpnGEJCKMYh6 h5AJbYxLxhMcSmxKuPg4jioyykUjILau9wYaXJyGe2Qa7bH5BFZyzyPI6WvlMnDXBJNj Buehx9Jh5Z7BffRB1BFDxlCePvDFBqxijpgnt9YALJVwJ6NtEI1csGPAapp0ns73Gi9E Rd9eODMewdV5mfBgO40X3U33F2myuaetQA/O3gjLUGAV0m7qnjXK3EUCdq4f8WaG38gE TuqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=HRuLooeAvR9A+a7xSCXqhDQQCyYWaTLgy0HKPJ++2mI=; b=O7jozhVwLIaOdboHFFH2PjowSxpmusuODzCJWp1W/pxOKIg0Ib/2vl2sn4a13pDg7M jmmQBB/q2JbAL27G3Rk3IhEHqqcH79QLu/TQKeNIVPxLaGOaVjJYpJ8CYxHVgc19WoXv dDdoKMAIxwWxZVdp8uXySeKDogjh0jAqH6klxjOnKIgd9wGgGgSesMBhMs7G1gH8WT13 9h5KYyd7Y4uuNFYM5vaNf8WSF3wUCzQxJRqIIspq7P1HkgRwtNzrPW2FsN/AI7NaoRgn GTC9bkdRC4FRXMb2s8PqkwH/82/dH44xt3B4TLobyzw7crYN76umlwX20vrIDwjItELo Je3Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKgV8EKqr8XyJ8BAbBlCzXtzx0t0vZ/DUbOp7/uvLRyLQBLMZVLHlsZhv3BmHXshyfiQdKfbwvQGt3HAQ== X-Received: by 10.237.34.150 with SMTP id p22mr9302186qtc.76.1484510772495; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 12:06:12 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.16.132 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 12:06:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20170115195209.70d3a748.mgorny@gentoo.org> From: Rich Freeman Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 15:06:11 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aJDHqfVEonVqDFrm8lKM6mLqaZE Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] ComRel / disciplinary action reform proposal To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 557b18b9-9195-495a-ad79-d48cd2830b3d X-Archives-Hash: 33e2a4457041d3e8ded47089747a9b3d On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Raymond Jennings wrote: > I would like to suggest that re-appeals be allowed to council AFTER a > significant period of time, say a year. People can change, and a decision > made in the heat of a moment may well cease to lose necessity. > ++ I personally feel that any past Council decision can be changed by the present Council. People and circumstances change. If I and my colleagues make a dumb decision, there is no reason for everybody else to be saddled with it 5 years from now. It isn't like we're infallible; we do the best we can. Sure, the Council should also use discretion in changing past decisions so that we don't just waffle back and forth, but such discretion is something people should be looking for when picking their Council members... -- Rich