From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08D60138334 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2808CE0976; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:48:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pl0-f67.google.com (mail-pl0-f67.google.com [209.85.160.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C965CE094B for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pl0-f67.google.com with SMTP id z9-v6so8011613plk.11 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 16:48:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Bz1GRUk1BQZwIgaUuRWxjKy1eNxxifGqrEkMvnCo8nQ=; b=XNoCe/TlZeuVp2qAuIAj66P9kZjd48YXXhQz+QGdTUeJKVnpdXW0025V8ibooSPj/G nhOz5YjH69r3NrdH/HAoX6L+HcAzQMW/44IGd3A15LVxwSQZOn/+Tf6eHFW26VqGHLuo 9lXfgR3eyJW58dMq6tTdA8UrKUjmF5pzY+mc69BgmP3HUxXuzrMQGlaYEPVA+QYajLfm wZyRdT/XJVBjlTwCKpgY0zx0aRCanYBNnfzKnGF7MSLu+gnp4DFFer89Qu/3i4nqCRNv U0CWvqijoRjsDxUb0aQEPnjoNn2AmntRIBY8C5YXSOix9n4tl8WZsEADoewjLva+cGq4 XNKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1IJSon1LGFBeYs1MlH+qFc/JZslwfM2eNqi9aXoL8VNxSs4Yxu DqFpQl0ohwbASw/d8RhdHMdzJ62QsMIJZaFdfS3Jew== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJj3UrSCQRBn/Zg01P8oKsxPqmZIFmegNiAw939kLXT4N15dKEg0YdEAP5gWqS6ANNrzt82I9LISX2lwCbf2Jc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:8497:: with SMTP id c23-v6mr11874143plo.124.1529279299263; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 16:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180617014233.GA1567@linux1.home> <7aff3272-74c2-c5ed-92d8-fb1b4baa1eba@iee.org> <5fd69b7e-abf6-dfef-afe7-39402b8b0c68@iee.org> <20180617172604.GA6560@linux1.home> <47901881-4bac-6638-d702-bfb42cfe32c4@iee.org> <20180617203438.GA9809@linux1.home> In-Reply-To: <20180617203438.GA9809@linux1.home> From: Rich Freeman Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:48:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] William Hubbs council manifesto 2018-2019 To: gentoo-project Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: f0467b71-943f-47ab-8871-7df28c662b00 X-Archives-Hash: de4ae71a74fb3141a30bac9739d8e8df On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 4:34 PM William Hubbs wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 02:23:02PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 2:15 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > > > > > On 17/06/18 19:07, Alec Warner wrote: > > > > > > I really don't think this is true. Its explicitly not true for me. I was a > > > trustee because there were open slots and someone had to 'keep the lights > > > on.' > > > Other people who ran for the board have expressed similar sentiments. I am > > > running again in the next election on a platform of dissolution (closing > > > the foundation) which is again contrary to your argument. There is no point > > > in continuing to run a non-profit that continues to nominally accrue risk > > > with little or no upside. Eventually it will become so toxic that you will > > > be unable to find anyone to run it (some may say this has already begun to > > > happen.) This is evident partially by the board's reduction in numbers. > > > Previously the board had 13 seats, then 7, then 5. I'm not superbly > > > confident we will be able to fill 5 seats in the next election. > > Rich, this argument makes no sense. I didn't write that. I suspect that somewhere along the way somebody messed up their quoting. That said, I largely agree with the point being made (I believe by Alec). (And to be fair, you did as well in your reply by not trimming the rest of the email below your last comment...) :) -- Rich