From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7CD7138334 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 20:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AEEEE08BE; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 20:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pf1-f172.google.com (mail-pf1-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33B8DE0893 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 20:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pf1-f172.google.com with SMTP id w73so3776319pfk.10 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:43:03 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=0Mx7ZsK3A6H+TcRBjGAn+5wJOHZqaFsTOIdLPBlitQ0=; b=nfG65b8kqWSqrJ5pvC6Mv1HuTGJPto2DPCu8VnolVIj+Tuxn7euwOoo/+eVLqc4UOH BHroAQ2LHP7vi/2n8G5N73ASk2sU31tLSRdnAGT7FTOI/O0sMEG04XtqAA1gSRItlSoP dCiEEnzslr8cyeHq7EkD8fmyD5CXYcmyK7jLbnOiLK/MVVEXKhxbbwhTIKq/SgAXnfHN /LSmpCI22ZjATg80OHl0okqQcHUJ9bBd3TNwrxAUOJ84viA6QqGHnNr7hCjdxa8vGG6B ejyqNPZ7OsHgtXvqW0dvsw/4Duv9k3ghjELxz+ZnXF9SLW49R5gZuO8e8roH0FC9G9+u uQpQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gIqC3Jy7rkq+YgKKYBcUJn/edYQhCEh34FQDvy/6vMVcVO+L1wz rZjNhw89R9vsm54cI/KuUpg4CFTORmWNspcQcHNx581N X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5cO6wozX+vMPxUdXpY6f5DK1+hRw+VmqpKChCrIGUPEvR0hG63v4za7oYR3OvRH6XUTw0oDyXbG8JICiaQw6kw= X-Received: by 2002:a62:83ce:: with SMTP id h197mr17375448pfe.187.1543005781373; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:43:01 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181113183242.GA26771@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <20181114024643.GA15537@linux1.home> <20181114174522.cab71989801dc2c155735326@gentoo.org> <20181114185302.875806d543d7da9d9162fc42@gentoo.org> <0ab206f1-4416-b35c-0f1b-85d5dd24c7c0@poindexter.ovh> <0082a107-c458-d9bd-0f38-9b3085f0a9d3@poindexter.ovh> In-Reply-To: <0082a107-c458-d9bd-0f38-9b3085f0a9d3@poindexter.ovh> From: Rich Freeman Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 15:42:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: copyright attribution clarifications To: gentoo-project Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: fb30b295-fc0f-4432-84bd-35760bd538ff X-Archives-Hash: c28bfbba35d61f29b134f417ab7e8f69 On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 3:23 PM Sarah White wrote: > > On 11/23/18 2:46 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Nobody is suggesting that multiple copyright owners shouldn't be > > allowed. Merely that multiple copyright owners shouldn't be named in > > the copyright notice. > > The interest in removing or discouraging a more verbose, > explicit copyright notice would suggest the only legitimate > interest should be assumed to be in "gentoo authors", and > for no other entity(s) or person(s) need have any stake > in having a well-structured copyright notice (any format) I'm not sure what "well-structured" means. The one-line format IS valid. If persons A, B, C, and D all own copyright on a file, as far as copyright law is concerned person D receives the same benefit whether the notice lists them or not. They can sue for infringement even if they aren't listed on the notice, and the innocent infringement defense is barred if they do, because the file contains a valid notice. US law does not require the person listed in the notice to be the person filing the lawsuit to obtain the benefit of there being a notice. Now, arguably there might be non-legal benefits of having more lines in the notice, such as documenting ownership, or in advertising yourself. In the case of documenting ownership IMO it would be FAR more efficient to do this with some kind of standardized header in git, ideally one that is both human- and machine-readable. In the case of advertising... If somebody is really contributing THAT much to Gentoo they should probably just ask to be recognized as a sponsor where you actually can stick logos on websites, advertise services, get pagerank, and all that stuff. Is a company name buried in an ebuild really that important for this purpose? And if it is just an odd contributed ebuild, do we really want to turn our ebuilds into advertising space? -- Rich