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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: Gentoo Council <council@gentoo.org>, games@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 08:32:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_me-KL0sa0GvwfPh1nfaB71B-NeuKtyf6kTZWiUJ9G4=g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1904237.nU16iSOlTl@kailua>

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Andreas K. Huettel
<dilfridge@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> the Gentoo Council will meet again on Sunday, October 11 at 19:00 UTC in
> #gentoo-council on freenode.
>
> Please reply to this message with any items you would like us to discuss
> or vote on.
>

So, this has been going around in various circles, and I think it is
better to just air stuff out here.  There are lots of arguments for
and against this.  I'm interested in what the general sense is, beyond
just those who have been vocal in bringing this up.

I'd like the Council to consider:
1.  Decide that games should not be owned by a games group, and that
in the default configuration users should not have to be in the games
group to run games.
2.  Games should be installed in /usr and not /usr/games as with most
applications
3.  Assuming 1&2 are both approved, deprecate games.eclass.  Otherwise
modify it accordingly.
4.  If 1&2 aren't approved, when should the games policy apply?  Does
it include games bundled in kde/gnome/etc?  Do we intend to give more
or less deference to maintainers when there is a dispute over whether
something is a "game?"  I'm not going to ask the Council to define
"game."

I don't want to get too much further into detail than that (does
nethack bones go in /var/lib/nethack, or /var/lib/games/nethack, and
what gid is used?).  I think that beyond a point it is best left to
the games team or maintainers.  Honestly, I'm not even 100% convinced
that we shouldn't leave the whole thing to the games team, but right
now we don't have an active one, and it seems like a lot of people are
passionate about it so I'm more inclined to set a policy now than let
the games team set a policy and then yell at them for getting it
wrong.

I'll go ahead and say now that from a personal standpoint I think we
should approve 1&2, deprecate the eclass, and #4 is moot.  I'm not
sure I'll end up voting that way because Gentoo policy is more than
personal preference, but I'm thinking that simpler is better here, and
it works for everything else that involves moving images on the
screen, sound, etc.

-- 
Rich


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-01 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-30 14:01 [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11 Andreas K. Huettel
2015-09-30 18:15 ` Michał Górny
2015-09-30 19:10   ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-09-30 19:22     ` Michał Górny
2015-09-30 19:39       ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-09-30 19:47         ` Michał Górny
2015-09-30 20:05           ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-09-30 20:12             ` Michał Górny
2015-10-01 13:00             ` Alexis Ballier
2015-09-30 19:45     ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-30 20:21   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-09-30 20:26     ` Michał Górny
2015-09-30 20:36       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-09-30 20:39         ` Michał Górny
2015-10-01 21:53           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-09-30 21:05         ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-01 12:53         ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-01 12:55     ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-01 19:08     ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-10-01 19:14       ` Michał Górny
2015-10-01 19:14         ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-10-01 19:39           ` Michał Górny
2015-10-01 19:53             ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-10-02 14:42     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-02 18:22       ` Michał Górny
2015-10-03  9:40         ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-03 10:49           ` Michał Górny
2015-10-03 11:23             ` Alex Legler
2015-10-02  0:57   ` [gentoo-project] Project membership vs being on a mail alias: pitfalls and problems Robin H. Johnson
2015-10-02  6:49     ` Michał Górny
2015-10-05  5:47   ` [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11 Michał Górny
2015-09-30 18:43 ` [gentoo-project] " Ulrich Mueller
2015-09-30 18:45 ` [gentoo-project] " Michał Górny
2015-10-08 12:42   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-10-08 12:58     ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-08 14:09       ` Michał Górny
2015-10-08 15:01         ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-08 15:27           ` hasufell
2015-10-08 18:24           ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-09  1:21             ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-10-09  9:44               ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-09 10:29                 ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-09 16:12                   ` Ian Delaney
2015-10-09 19:29                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-09 10:31               ` hasufell
2015-10-09 10:50                 ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-09 10:58                   ` hasufell
2015-10-09 11:07                     ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-09 11:17                     ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-09 11:23                       ` hasufell
2015-10-09 11:56                         ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-09 12:15                           ` hasufell
2015-10-09 23:40                             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-10 10:16                               ` hasufell
2015-10-10 11:35                                 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-10 11:37                                   ` hasufell
2015-10-10 12:21                                     ` Fabian Groffen
2015-10-10 12:23                                       ` hasufell
2015-10-10 13:56                                         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-10 17:14                                         ` Dale
2015-10-10 18:56                             ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-10-10 18:59                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-10-10 21:41                                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-17 23:14                                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-10-17 23:36                                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-18  0:33                                       ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-20  9:36                                     ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-10-20 10:05                                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-20 10:11                                         ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-10-10 19:17                               ` hasufell
2015-10-10  1:41             ` Matt Turner
2015-10-08 18:30           ` Michał Górny
2015-10-09  9:35             ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-10  1:51               ` Matt Turner
2015-10-10  8:21                 ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-09 23:38             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-10  7:21               ` Michał Górny
2015-10-10  1:44             ` Matt Turner
2015-10-08 18:48         ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-10-08 20:22           ` James Le Cuirot
2015-10-09 23:34           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-10  7:26             ` Michał Górny
2015-09-30 19:12 ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-01 18:36   ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-30 20:24 ` Manuel Rüger
2015-10-01 12:32 ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2015-10-01 13:18   ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-12  8:23   ` Michał Górny
2015-10-12 12:42     ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-18 20:58       ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-18 21:18         ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-18 21:49           ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-18 22:13           ` hasufell
2015-10-18 23:35             ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-18 21:28         ` Michał Górny
2015-10-18 21:54           ` hasufell
2015-10-18 21:56           ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-18 22:28           ` Daniel Campbell
2015-10-18 22:40             ` James Le Cuirot
2015-10-19  7:55               ` Michał Górny
2015-10-19 10:44                 ` hasufell
2015-10-12 13:07     ` hasufell
2015-10-04 11:13 ` Michał Górny
2015-10-04 12:17   ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-07 11:58     ` Michał Górny

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