[gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto]

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Dear Gentoo Community,

Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).

All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
the same mailing list.

Here are the rules:

    * Council elections generally happen once a year
    * The council is composed of seven elected members
    * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
00H00 UTC
    * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
    * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
    * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
    * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
      (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
infra team has time to set up everything)
    * Only Gentoo developers may vote
    * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
    * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
    * Results should be published around July 4th

The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
information regarding the election.

 [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606

If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
the project page[2].

 [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council

If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).

Officials:

Chris Reffett (creffett)
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)

Infra Contact (to be confirmed):
Alex Legler (a3li)

For the elections team,

- --
Regards,

Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Aaron Bauman]

On Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:38:53 AM JST, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> Dear Gentoo Community,
>
> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
>
> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
> the same mailing list.
>
> Here are the rules:
>
>     * Council elections generally happen once a year
>     * The council is composed of seven elected members
>     * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
> 00H00 UTC
>     * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
>     * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
>     * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
>     * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
>       (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
> infra team has time to set up everything)
>     * Only Gentoo developers may vote
>     * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
> by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
>     * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
>     * Results should be published around July 4th
>
> The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
> information regarding the election.
>
>  [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
>
> If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
> the project page[2].
>
>  [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
>
> If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
> the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
> IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).
>
> Officials:
>
> Chris Reffett (creffett)
> Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
> Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)
>
> Infra Contact (to be confirmed):
> Alex Legler (a3li)
>
> For the elections team,
>
> - --
> Regards,
>
> Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
> Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
>
>
>

I nominate the following developers:

Kristian Fiskerstrand (k_f)
Patrice Clement (monsieurp)

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Kristian Fiskerstrand]

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On 06/04/2016 09:58 AM, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> On Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:38:53 AM JST, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
>> Dear Gentoo Community,
>>
>> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
>> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
>> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
> 
> I nominate the following developers:
> 
> Kristian Fiskerstrand (k_f)

Thank you, I accept the nomination


-- 
Kristian Fiskerstrand
OpenPGP certificate reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Patrice Clement]

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Patrice Clement]

On 06/04/2016 09:58 AM, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> On Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:38:53 AM JST, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
>> Dear Gentoo Community,
>>
>> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
>> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
>> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
>
> I nominate the following developers:
>
> Patrice Clement (monsieurp)

Thanks! I accept the nomination.

-- 
Patrice Clement
Gentoo Linux developer
http://www.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Mikle Kolyada]

04.06.2016 02:38, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto пишет:
> Dear Gentoo Community,
>
> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
>
> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
> the same mailing list.
>
> Here are the rules:
>
>      * Council elections generally happen once a year
>      * The council is composed of seven elected members
>      * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
> 00H00 UTC
>      * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
>      * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
>      * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
>      * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
>        (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
> infra team has time to set up everything)
>      * Only Gentoo developers may vote
>      * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
> by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
>      * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
>      * Results should be published around July 4th
>
> The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
> information regarding the election.
>
>   [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
>
> If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
> the project page[2].
>
>   [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
>
> If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
> the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
> IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).
>
> Officials:
>
> Chris Reffett (creffett)
> Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
> Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)
>
> Infra Contact (to be confirmed):
> Alex Legler (a3li)
>
> For the elections team,
>
> - --
> Regards,
>
> Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
> Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
I want to nominate:

-k_f
-dilfridge
-hworang
-ulm
-jlec
-williamh
-blueness

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[William Hubbs]

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On Sat, Jun 04, 2016 at 02:48:25PM +0300, Mikle Kolyada wrote:
> I want to nominate:
> 
> -k_f
> -dilfridge
> -hworang
> -ulm
> -jlec
> -williamh
> -blueness

Thanks much, I accept the nomination. :-)

William


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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Andreas K. Huettel]

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Am Samstag, 4. Juni 2016, 13:48:25 schrieb Mikle Kolyada:

> I want to nominate:
> 
> -k_f
> -dilfridge
> -hworang
> -ulm
> -jlec
> -williamh
> -blueness

Thanks. I accept the nomination.

- -- 

Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer 
dilfridge@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Ulrich Mueller]

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>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, Mikle Kolyada wrote:

> I want to nominate:

> -k_f
> -dilfridge
> -hworang
> -ulm
> -jlec
> -williamh
> -blueness

>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, Andreas K Hüttel wrote:

> This is probably the right moment to thank my current council
> colleagues for their work. Gentlemen, it's been a pleasure over the
> last year, and I'd be happy to work with all of you again.

> Which is why I nominate :)

> * blueness
> * jlec
> * k_f
> * rich0
> * ulm
> * williamh

>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, Daniel Campbell wrote:

> I nominate the following:

> * K_F
> * jlec
> * monsieurp
> * rich0
> * blueness
> * maffblaster
> * ulm
> * williamh

> Also anyone who promises donuts. (kidding)

Thank you all. I accept the nomination.

Ulrich

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Anthony G. Basile]

On 6/4/16 6:04 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, Mikle Kolyada wrote:
> 
>> I want to nominate:
> 
>> -k_f
>> -dilfridge
>> -hworang
>> -ulm
>> -jlec
>> -williamh
>> -blueness
> 
>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, Andreas K Hüttel wrote:
> 
>> This is probably the right moment to thank my current council
>> colleagues for their work. Gentlemen, it's been a pleasure over the
>> last year, and I'd be happy to work with all of you again.
> 
>> Which is why I nominate :)
> 
>> * blueness
>> * jlec
>> * k_f
>> * rich0
>> * ulm
>> * williamh
> 
>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> 
>> I nominate the following:
> 
>> * K_F
>> * jlec
>> * monsieurp
>> * rich0
>> * blueness
>> * maffblaster
>> * ulm
>> * williamh
> 
>> Also anyone who promises donuts. (kidding)
> 
> Thank you all. I accept the nomination.
> 
> Ulrich
> 

Thanks for the nominations.  I guess I must be doing something right.
I'll accept.

I'll also take people out for coffee and donuts if they pass through
Buffalo NY. (not kidding)

-- 
Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D.
Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened]
E-Mail    : blueness@gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Justin <jlec>]

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On 04/06/2016 12:48 pm, Mikle Kolyada wrote:
> 
> 
> 04.06.2016 02:38, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto пишет:
>> Dear Gentoo Community,
>>
>> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
>> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
>> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
>>
>> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
>> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
>> the same mailing list.
>>
>> Here are the rules:
>>
>>      * Council elections generally happen once a year
>>      * The council is composed of seven elected members
>>      * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
>> 00H00 UTC
>>      * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
>>      * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
>>      * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
>>      * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
>>        (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
>> infra team has time to set up everything)
>>      * Only Gentoo developers may vote
>>      * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
>> by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
>>      * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
>>      * Results should be published around July 4th
>>
>> The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
>> information regarding the election.
>>
>>   [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
>>
>> If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
>> the project page[2].
>>
>>   [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
>>
>> If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
>> the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
>> IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).
>>
>> Officials:
>>
>> Chris Reffett (creffett)
>> Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
>> Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)
>>
>> Infra Contact (to be confirmed):
>> Alex Legler (a3li)
>>
>> For the elections team,
>>
>> - -- 
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
>> Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
> I want to nominate:
> 
> -k_f
> -dilfridge
> -hworang
> -ulm
> -jlec
> -williamh
> -blueness
> 

Thanks Mikle and Andreas, I accept.



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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Alexander Berntsen]

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In addition to the already nominated, I would like to nominate the
following:

- -Zac Medico
- -Sergei Trofimovich
- -Brian Dolbec
- -- 
Alexander
bernalex@gentoo.org
https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander
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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Sergei Trofimovich]

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On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:05:25 +0200
Alexander Berntsen <bernalex@gentoo.org> wrote:

> In addition to the already nominated, I would like to nominate the
> following:
> 
> - -Zac Medico
> - -Sergei Trofimovich
> - -Brian Dolbec

I hereby accept the nomination. Thank you :)

-- 

  Sergei

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[gentoo-project] Council Manifesto (slyfox)

[Sergei Trofimovich]

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On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 20:52:34 +0100
Sergei Trofimovich <slyfox@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:05:25 +0200
> Alexander Berntsen <bernalex@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > In addition to the already nominated, I would like to nominate the
> > following:
> > 
> > - -Zac Medico
> > - -Sergei Trofimovich
> > - -Brian Dolbec  
> 
> I hereby accept the nomination. Thank you :)
Here is my manifesto for Gentoo Council Elections:

[copy is at http://dev.gentoo.org/~slyfox/201606-council-manifesto.txt ]

TL;DR
=====

Council should help our devs and users, not stop them.

Ideals
======

- Individuals are the heart of Gentoo, we need more of them
- Share as much useful information as possible across the collaborators
- Gentoo must stay fun and easy to contribute to
- Hardware and software platform diversity makes Gentoo and FOSS community stronger
- Don't be a blocker for others' work or experiments on Gentoo

Projects
========

* haskell

  Currently I'm Gentoo haskell@ project lead. That includes
  handling the direction of haskell and GHC support in Gentoo.
  Large part of it is porting or maintaining ports of GHC to
  various architectures and flavours.

* minor arches support in Gentoo

  I occasionally try to help minor arch teams to find and
  fix bugs in non-haskell packages as well :).

  To get you an idea of what I enjoy dealing with:

  - fixing grub SIGSEGV on x86 and gcc-4.9: http://trofi.github.io/posts/188-grub-0.97-and-gcc-4.9.html
  - fixing glibc on ia64: http://trofi.github.io/posts/189-glibc-on-ia64-or-how-relocations-bootstrap.html
  - fixing ghc on m68k: http://trofi.github.io/posts/191-ghc-on-m68k.html
  - fixing ghc on sparc: http://trofi.github.io/posts/187-fixing-ghc-on-sparc-ia64-and-friends.html

* package maintenance

  A few of those: http://euscan.gentooexperimental.org/maintainers/slyfox@gentoo.org/

* mentoring new devs and helping users

  Responsible for getting 4 bright persons aboard.

  Hang on #gentoo-haskell and help people dealing with stuff.

Areas of interest
=================

Compiler internals, linkers, assemblers, minor and exotic ISAs, CPU emulators,
static and dynamic binary and source code analysers, linux kernel, networking,
haskell.

Linux background
================

Linux user since 2002.

Was a Linux From Scratch user for a few years.
Gentoo user since 2007, haskell overlay contributor in 2008 and a dev in 2010.

Education
=========

Barchelor of Science Degree in Computer Security, Radiophysicist in Belarusian State University.

--

Sergei

-- 

  Sergei

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Zac Medico]

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On 06/04/2016 05:05 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> In addition to the already nominated, I would like to nominate the
> following:
> 
> -Zac Medico
> -Sergei Trofimovich
> -Brian Dolbec
> 

Thank you, but I decline.
-- 
Thanks,
Zac


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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Brian Dolbec]

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On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:05:25 +0200
Alexander Berntsen <bernalex@gentoo.org> wrote:

> In addition to the already nominated, I would like to nominate the
> following:
> 
> - -Zac Medico
> - -Sergei Trofimovich
> - -Brian Dolbec
> - -- 
> Alexander
> bernalex@gentoo.org
> https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander

I thank you for the nomination.

I have thought hard about this this past week and a half.
But I feel I can not devote enough time to this posting at this time.
I am already having trouble keeping up with things for the various
projects I am involved with.  So, adding this to take away from time in
those would not be the best I feel.

I will have to decline for now.  Perhaps next time.

All I need is more minions ;) to share the load in those other projects.


- -- 
Brian Dolbec <dolsen>

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Andreas K. Hüttel]

Am Samstag, 4. Juni 2016, 01:38:53 schrieb Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto:
> Dear Gentoo Community,
> 
> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
> 
> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
> the same mailing list.
> 

This is probably the right moment to thank my current council colleagues for 
their work. Gentlemen, it's been a pleasure over the last year, and I'd be 
happy to work with all of you again.

Which is why I nominate :)

* blueness
* jlec
* k_f
* rich0
* ulm
* williamh

-- 
Andreas K. Hüttel
Gentoo Linux developer (council, perl, libreoffice)
dilfridge@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Rich Freeman]

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Andreas K. Hüttel <dilfridge@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> Which is why I nominate :)
>
> * rich0

Thank you, I accept.

-- 
Rich

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Daniel Campbell]

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On 06/03/2016 04:38 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> Dear Gentoo Community,
> 
> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
> 
> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
> the same mailing list.
> 
> Here are the rules:
> 
>     * Council elections generally happen once a year
>     * The council is composed of seven elected members
>     * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
> 00H00 UTC
>     * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
>     * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
>     * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
>     * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
>       (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
> infra team has time to set up everything)
>     * Only Gentoo developers may vote
>     * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
> by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
>     * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
>     * Results should be published around July 4th
> 
> The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
> information regarding the election.
> 
>  [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
> 
> If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
> the project page[2].
> 
>  [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
> 
> If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
> the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
> IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).
> 
> Officials:
> 
> Chris Reffett (creffett)
> Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
> Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)
> 
> Infra Contact (to be confirmed):
> Alex Legler (a3li)
> 
> For the elections team,
> 
> - --
> Regards,
> 
> Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
> Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
> 
I nominate the following:

* K_F
* jlec
* monsieurp
* rich0
* blueness
* maffblaster
* ulm
* williamh

Also anyone who promises donuts. (kidding)

-- 
Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer
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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto]

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On 03-06-2016 23:38, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> Dear Gentoo Community,
> 
> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
> 
> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
> the same mailing list.
> 
> Here are the rules:
> 
>     * Council elections generally happen once a year
>     * The council is composed of seven elected members
>     * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
> 00H00 UTC
>     * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
>     * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
>     * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
>     * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
>       (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
> infra team has time to set up everything)
>     * Only Gentoo developers may vote
>     * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
> by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
>     * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
>     * Results should be published around July 4th
> 
> The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
> information regarding the election.
> 
>  [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
> 
> If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
> the project page[2].
> 
>  [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
> 
> If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
> the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
> IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).
> 
> Officials:
> 
> Chris Reffett (creffett)
> Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
> Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)
> 
> Infra Contact (to be confirmed):
> Alex Legler (a3li)

Alex has confirmed he is going to be the Infra Contact for this election.

> For the elections team,
> 
> - --
> Regards,
> 
> Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
> Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
> 



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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Patrick Lauer]

On 06/04/2016 01:38 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> Dear Gentoo Community,
>
> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
>
> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
> the same mailing list.
>
> Here are the rules:
>
>     * Council elections generally happen once a year
>     * The council is composed of seven elected members
>     * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
> 00H00 UTC
>     * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
>     * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
>     * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
So I'm going to nominate myself and accept, just to motivate people to vote:

If you don't vote the chances of me getting in becomes higher!


Have fun,

Patrick

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Johannes Huber]

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Am Freitag 03 Juni 2016, 23:38:53 schrieb Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto:
> Dear Gentoo Community,
> 
> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
> 
> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
> the same mailing list.
> 
> Here are the rules:
> 
>     * Council elections generally happen once a year
>     * The council is composed of seven elected members
>     * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
> 00H00 UTC
>     * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
>     * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
>     * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
>     * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
>       (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
> infra team has time to set up everything)
>     * Only Gentoo developers may vote
>     * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
> by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
>     * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
>     * Results should be published around July 4th
> 
> The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
> information regarding the election.
> 
>  [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
> 
> If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
> the project page[2].
> 
>  [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
> 
> If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
> the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
> IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).
> 
> Officials:
> 
> Chris Reffett (creffett)
> Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
> Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)
> 
> Infra Contact (to be confirmed):
> Alex Legler (a3li)
> 
> For the elections team,
> 
> - --
> Regards,
> 
> Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
> Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng

I nominate mgorny and kensington. Others in mind were are already nominated.

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[gentoo-project] Re: Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Michael Palimaka]

On 06/06/16 03:46, Johannes Huber wrote:
> Am Freitag 03 Juni 2016, 23:38:53 schrieb Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto:
>> Dear Gentoo Community,
>>
>> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
>> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
>> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
>>
>> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
>> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
>> the same mailing list.
>>
>> Here are the rules:
>>
>>     * Council elections generally happen once a year
>>     * The council is composed of seven elected members
>>     * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
>> 00H00 UTC
>>     * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
>>     * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
>>     * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
>>     * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
>>       (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
>> infra team has time to set up everything)
>>     * Only Gentoo developers may vote
>>     * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
>> by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
>>     * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
>>     * Results should be published around July 4th
>>
>> The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
>> information regarding the election.
>>
>>  [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
>>
>> If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
>> the project page[2].
>>
>>  [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
>>
>> If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
>> the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
>> IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).
>>
>> Officials:
>>
>> Chris Reffett (creffett)
>> Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
>> Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)
>>
>> Infra Contact (to be confirmed):
>> Alex Legler (a3li)
>>
>> For the elections team,
>>
>> - --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
>> Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
> 
> I nominate mgorny and kensington. Others in mind were are already nominated.
> 

Thanks, but I decline.

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Michał Górny]

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On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 19:46:19 +0200
Johannes Huber <johu@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Am Freitag 03 Juni 2016, 23:38:53 schrieb Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto:
> > Dear Gentoo Community,
> > 
> > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
> > 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
> > weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
> > 
> > All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
> > were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
> > the same mailing list.
> > 
> > Here are the rules:
> > 
> >     * Council elections generally happen once a year
> >     * The council is composed of seven elected members
> >     * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
> > 00H00 UTC
> >     * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
> >     * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
> >     * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
> >     * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
> >       (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
> > infra team has time to set up everything)
> >     * Only Gentoo developers may vote
> >     * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
> > by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
> >     * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
> >     * Results should be published around July 4th
> > 
> > The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
> > information regarding the election.
> > 
> >  [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
> > 
> > If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
> > the project page[2].
> > 
> >  [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
> > 
> > If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
> > the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
> > IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).
> > 
> > Officials:
> > 
> > Chris Reffett (creffett)
> > Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
> > Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)
> > 
> > Infra Contact (to be confirmed):
> > Alex Legler (a3li)
> > 
> > For the elections team,
> > 
> > - --
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
> > Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng  
> 
> I nominate mgorny and kensington. Others in mind were are already nominated.

Thank you but I'm going to decline.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>

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[gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Agostino Sarubbo]

I'd like to nominate:

- axs
- chithanh
- floppym
- perfinion
- polynomial-c


-- 
Agostino Sarubbo
Gentoo Linux Developer

Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Ian Stakenvicius]

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On 06/06/16 08:02 AM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
> I'd like to nominate:
> 
> - axs
> - chithanh
> - floppym
> - perfinion
> - polynomial-c
> 
> 

Thank you very much for the nomination!

Unfortunately, I will have to decline this year -- I expect my Real
Life(tm) to have too many changes in the next 3-12 months to be able
to guarantee commitments to scheduled meetings or the appropriate
self-education on issues that arise.  Please do consider me for next
year, though.


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Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Jason Zaman]

On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 02:02:49PM +0200, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
> I'd like to nominate:
> - perfinion
> -- 
> Agostino Sarubbo
> Gentoo Linux Developer

Thank you very much for the nomination Ago. I accept. :D

-- Jason

[gentoo-project] Council Manifesto 2016

[Jason Zaman]

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Gentoo Council Manifesto 2016
Jason Zaman (perfinion)
=============================

I'm Swedish and live in Singapore. I've been using Gentoo since the 1.4 days
and have been a Gentoo developer for a couple years now. Initially I started
on the SELinux, Integrity, and Hardened projects. I'm now also a part of the
Xfce and Proxy-Maintainers projects.

I really like Gentoo's flexibility and community. We have a lot of talented
developers but growing our ranks is still important. The migration to git
helped a lot with getting more users involved which is great. I am very much
in favour of ways where people can contribute to the community in the capacity
they want. This does not necessarily mean they have to become a full dev.

Like the others, I care about the stable tree and how smooth updates go.
All my machines are on stable and overall its good but we can still do
better testing all the combinations and profiles.

Ideally, things should just work and the council would not be needed. When
things undoubtedly do come to councils attention, I will try to examine things
fairly and do what is best for the distro as a whole.

Best Regards,
Jason

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Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Pacho Ramos]

El lun, 06-06-2016 a las 14:02 +0200, Agostino Sarubbo escribió:
> I'd like to nominate:
> 
> - axs
> - chithanh
> - floppym
> - perfinion
> - polynomial-c
> 
> 

I would like to additionally nominate you (ago) too 

Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Agostino Sarubbo]

On Saturday 11 June 2016 13:54:24 Pacho Ramos wrote:
> I would like to additionally nominate you (ago) too 

Thanks, but I decline.

-- 
Agostino Sarubbo
Gentoo Linux Developer

Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn]

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Agostino Sarubbo schrieb:
> I'd like to nominate:
>
> - chithanh

Thank you for the nomination. I have to decline this year.


Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn



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Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Mike Gilbert]

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Agostino Sarubbo <ago@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I'd like to nominate:
> - floppym

Thanks, but I decline. I've been slacking on python stuff already, so
I can't reasonably add council to my responsibility set.

Maybe next year.

Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Lars Wendler]

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On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 14:02:49 +0200 Agostino Sarubbo wrote:

>I'd like to nominate:
>
>- axs
>- chithanh
>- floppym
>- perfinion
>- polynomial-c
>
>

Hello,

after thinking about this for quite a while I came to the conclusion
that I unfortunately cannot accept the nomination. I'd love to take
part in Gentoo's council but I'm afraid I cannot devote enough time to
council matters.
Having a quite various private live with lots of commitments does not
really offer to add another commitment to the list :)

Thank you very much for the nomination but I have to decline.

Kind regards
Lars

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Amadeusz Żołnowski]

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I nominate mgorny.

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election (1 week nomination left)

[Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto]

On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:

> Dear Gentoo Community,
>
> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).

Hi all.

This is just a quick reminder that there's 1 week left for nominations.
I'd also like to suggest that any candidate that accepted the nomination, 
if planning to write a manifesto, start thinking about notifying the 
election team so we can update the election page - if you have access to 
the page, also freel free to do it yourself.

> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
> the same mailing list.
>
> Here are the rules:
>
>    * Council elections generally happen once a year
>    * The council is composed of seven elected members
>    * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
> 00H00 UTC
>    * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
>    * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
>    * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
>    * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
>      (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
> infra team has time to set up everything)
>    * Only Gentoo developers may vote
>    * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
> by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
>    * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
>    * Results should be published around July 4th
>
> The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
> information regarding the election.
>
> [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
>
> If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
> the project page[2].
>
> [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
>
> If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
> the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
> IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).
>
> Officials:
>
> Chris Reffett (creffett)
> Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
> Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)
>
> Infra Contact:
> Alex Legler (a3li)

For the elections team,

> For the elections team,
>
> - --
> Regards,
>
> Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
> Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
>

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Michał Górny]

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On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 23:38:53 +0000
"Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <jmbsvicetto@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Dear Gentoo Community,
> 
> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
> 
> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
> the same mailing list.

In addition to the developers nominated already, I'd like to nominate:

- djc,

- leio,

- and pacho.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Dirkjan Ochtman]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:50 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> In addition to the developers nominated already, I'd like to nominate:
>
> - djc,

Thanks; I accept.

Cheers,

Dirkjan

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Mart Raudsepp]

Ühel kenal päeval, T, 14.06.2016 kell 21:50, kirjutas Michał Górny:
> In addition to the developers nominated already, I'd like to
> nominate:
> - leio,

While I believe that the council and its elected members should be
proactive and initiate forward movement for the distribution with ideas
and pushing them through, this doesn't seem to be the case in practice,
sadly.
As I am not yet fully sure how much time and motivation I will have for
the coming year (having only recently become more active again too; and
not yet even in package maintenance, which doesn't seem to be my cup of
tea anymore), I will have to choose to try to push these things without
wielding any council hats (or without trying to acquire one) and not
commit to the periodical voting of other matters, even though I believe
I would make sound decisions and voting for the betterment of the
distribution.

Then I can concentrate more fully on those initiative things, which I
believe is a make or break for my continued usage and promotion of the
distribution, as I have serious issues with the stagnation we have
going on, which I want to try to fix in the coming ~12 months or give
up altogether.

I believe council members ought to be working on such things as well,
not just show up once a month for a meeting, hopefully having prepared
on the topics at hand. Though this leadership role doesn't seem to be
in the task list for the council, strictly speaking (in terms of what
would get one lifted from their duties, at least).
Having looked at the open and recently closed council involved bugs, I
don't even see follow-ups happening properly for supposedly decided
matters, not to mention low initiative count besides PMS stuff and
similar, which is rather concerning and sadly shows some old council
members in a slightly bad light, in my opinion. But we shall all
reflect that appropriately in our upcoming anonymous voting, hopefully
in an educated manner based on past actions, future promises in
manifestos, and so on.


tl;dr: I decline the nomination at this time.


Mart

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Daniel Campbell]

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On 06/18/2016 09:19 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> Ühel kenal päeval, T, 14.06.2016 kell 21:50, kirjutas Michał Górny:
>> In addition to the developers nominated already, I'd like to
>> nominate:
>> - leio,
> 
> While I believe that the council and its elected members should be
> proactive and initiate forward movement for the distribution with ideas
> and pushing them through, this doesn't seem to be the case in practice,
> sadly.
> [snip]

I understand the council to be a group of experienced Gentoo developers
who have the knowledge and awareness to assist the distribution in
making tough decisions. They shouldn't be counted on, by default, to
bring "forward movement" to Gentoo; that's the responsibility of all of
us and under most circumstances we shouldn't *need* the Council.
However, they're there for when the developer community cannot agree on
a standard. So in essence, the Council is often the last course of
action to stop bike-shedding and incite productive activity on a given
issue.

Actions often speak louder than words; if you feel strongly enough about
something and want to push things forward, a council proposal may be
what's needed assuming enough conversation on a given topic has happened
and it hasn't gone anywhere.

The less admin/bureaucratic overhead we have, the better. From what I
gather even the Council feels this way, but that's just my two cents.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Rich Freeman]

On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Daniel Campbell <zlg@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> The less admin/bureaucratic overhead we have, the better. From what I
> gather even the Council feels this way, but that's just my two cents.
>

++

Certainly I feel this way.  I'd say that most of m peers would agree.
Not that this ultimately matters since for the next two weeks the
final say in what the council should be really rests with the
developers.

This topic has come up before.  If you actually look at what powers
the council has in practice they are:
1.  Approve GLEPs.
2.  Appeals for comrel actions.
3.  Resolve disagreements within the community (such as between projects, etc).

The ability for the council itself to actually get anything done is
purely dependent on how much its members want to spend their time
doing it themselves.  The council doesn't actually have the power to
make anybody do anything.  It does have the power to prevent somebody
from doing something, and to pick a side in a dispute to settle it.
For example, there was a dispute over how games should be managed, and
the Council decided that developers could form a new games project if
they wished, or maintain games outside of the project, and that it was
not necessary to use the games eclass or follow the previous games
project policies.  What the Council can't actually do is force
somebody to go in and modify all the games ebuilds to stop using the
eclass.  Maybe we could have all the games that use the eclass
treecleaned, but that would be like swatting a fly with a howitzer.
So, until somebody wants to actually implement the changes we're left
with the status quo.  However, nobody is actually complaining about
the status quo, so it can't be that bad.  Indeed, if somebody thought
it was bad, they'd just fix it, and with the council decisions in hand
nobody could interfere with their work.

Ultimately that is the practical role of the council.  If there is
something you want to do in Gentoo, then DO IT.  And if somebody gets
in your way, the Council can get them out of your way, or help find a
middle way that lets everybody accomplish their goals.

When it comes down to actually leading initiatives, well, we already
have GLEP 39 which basically says that anybody can do it.  You don't
need to be on the Council to make a big project happen.  You just need
to appeal to devs to contribute.  If your appeal falls on deaf ears,
trust me, being on the council isn't going to make it go any better.
To the degree that any of us have sway in the community we had it
before we ever joined the council, and maintain it apart from our
participation in the council.

Now, if you view the Council as a badge of honor or something to be
put on a resume, then I certainly can understand frustration when
people with low commit rates/etc or low rates of making big proposals
aren't on the Council.  However, if you view the role of the Council
as running interference for the people who really are getting the work
done, then you might appreciate that it isn't always beneficial to
have the Council buried in implementing portage enhancements or
whatever.  Often "calmer heads" is one of the more important
attributes, as well as technical competence.

Oh, and a willingness to write up meeting summaries never hurts.  :)

-- 
Rich

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Daniel Campbell]

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On 06/18/2016 05:59 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Daniel Campbell <zlg@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>> The less admin/bureaucratic overhead we have, the better. From what I
>> gather even the Council feels this way, but that's just my two cents.
>>
> 
> ++
> 
> Certainly I feel this way.  I'd say that most of m peers would agree.
> Not that this ultimately matters since for the next two weeks the
> final say in what the council should be really rests with the
> developers.
> 
> This topic has come up before.  If you actually look at what powers
> the council has in practice they are:
> 1.  Approve GLEPs.
> 2.  Appeals for comrel actions.
> 3.  Resolve disagreements within the community (such as between projects, etc).
> 
> The ability for the council itself to actually get anything done is
> purely dependent on how much its members want to spend their time
> doing it themselves.  The council doesn't actually have the power to
> make anybody do anything.  It does have the power to prevent somebody
> from doing something, and to pick a side in a dispute to settle it.
> For example, there was a dispute over how games should be managed, and
> the Council decided that developers could form a new games project if
> they wished, or maintain games outside of the project, and that it was
> not necessary to use the games eclass or follow the previous games
> project policies.  What the Council can't actually do is force
> somebody to go in and modify all the games ebuilds to stop using the
> eclass.  Maybe we could have all the games that use the eclass
> treecleaned, but that would be like swatting a fly with a howitzer.
> So, until somebody wants to actually implement the changes we're left
> with the status quo.  However, nobody is actually complaining about
> the status quo, so it can't be that bad.  Indeed, if somebody thought
> it was bad, they'd just fix it, and with the council decisions in hand
> nobody could interfere with their work.
> 
> Ultimately that is the practical role of the council.  If there is
> something you want to do in Gentoo, then DO IT.  And if somebody gets
> in your way, the Council can get them out of your way, or help find a
> middle way that lets everybody accomplish their goals.
> 
> When it comes down to actually leading initiatives, well, we already
> have GLEP 39 which basically says that anybody can do it.  You don't
> need to be on the Council to make a big project happen.  You just need
> to appeal to devs to contribute.  If your appeal falls on deaf ears,
> trust me, being on the council isn't going to make it go any better.
> To the degree that any of us have sway in the community we had it
> before we ever joined the council, and maintain it apart from our
> participation in the council.
> 
> Now, if you view the Council as a badge of honor or something to be
> put on a resume, then I certainly can understand frustration when
> people with low commit rates/etc or low rates of making big proposals
> aren't on the Council.  However, if you view the role of the Council
> as running interference for the people who really are getting the work
> done, then you might appreciate that it isn't always beneficial to
> have the Council buried in implementing portage enhancements or
> whatever.  Often "calmer heads" is one of the more important
> attributes, as well as technical competence.
> 
> Oh, and a willingness to write up meeting summaries never hurts.  :)
> 
Thanks for the thorough explanation; my thoughts were pretty much right
in line with that, and I think it's for the better. It gives 'power' to
those who want to do the work or are willing to come up with workable
solutions that suit most or all people involved.

A great example is the recent USE_EXPAND="gui" or L10N. Some people want
these changes to happen, but are tackling real world problems at the
same time as some bike-shedding so that the ideas can build and evolve
into something suitable. I think some view situations like those as
make-it-or-break-it deals, and perhaps that stalls discussions and
steers them in less-productive directions. It's my hope that the council
doesn't need to get involved, because the entire consequence of
collaboration is we're going to have to find practical solutions that
fix as many issues for as many people possible without taking away
options. Few distros can do that; the ones who can are mostly based on
Gentoo in the first place.

So I guess maybe our protracted discussions and "slowness" is a good thing.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Rich Freeman]

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Daniel Campbell <zlg@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> So I guess maybe our protracted discussions and "slowness" is a good thing.
>

Do we REALLY have protracted discussions?  I guess it is all relative,
but a typical Gentoo debate over some big change seems to last a week
if whoever is pushing the proposal is actually moving forward
actively.  Either a consensus forms or it doesn't.  If there is
consensus they actually can move forward without Council approval,
though some choose to wait for the next Council meeting anyway.  If
there isn't consensus then we usually make a decision at the next
meeting, unless the proposal just isn't quite ready yet.  Usually if
it isn't ready it is fairly obvious in the discussion.  Hint: if you
are sitting on this really great idea, waiting until a week before the
Council meeting to broach the topic isn't ideal.

Now, when somebody just throws an idea out there and maybe asks the
Council if it is a good idea, but nobody is all that interested in
implementing it, then obviously it will sit around forever.  We all
probably have lots of good ideas.  There is no harm in bouncing them
off the lists; maybe somebody will be inspired and implement it, or
we'll come up with an even better idea.  However, in the end we have
to recognize that a volunteer distro is the result of the stuff people
have bothered to actually implement.

Then there are the discussions that just keep coming up, but they're
usually just discussions.  We can argue about whether A is better than
B, but typically these discussions don't actually have any practical
impact on how Gentoo is governed.  9/10 times we have some way to let
A and B co-exist in the distro if anybody cares to put the work in,
and whether one is better than the other certainly inspires passions
but doesn't really impact repo policy.

Now, if you want every idea to hit the ~arch tree two days after it is
proposed, you're going to struggle to find any distro that can
accommodate you.  Reasonable QA depends on all the developers
following the same set of rules, and good luck with that if the rules
are changing faster than anybody can stay on top of, likely including
the QA team.  As annoying as talking about changes are, we talk about
them because dealing with the aftermath of slowly working them out in
production is far worse.

Maybe I'm just out of touch (in which case somebody should cluebat me
with some examples), but I feel like protracted discussions are
something that we haven't really had in a while, at least not on
technical matters.

-- 
Rich

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Daniel Campbell]

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On 06/19/2016 05:04 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Daniel Campbell <zlg@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>> So I guess maybe our protracted discussions and "slowness" is a good thing.
>>
> 
> Do we REALLY have protracted discussions?  I guess it is all relative,
> but a typical Gentoo debate over some big change seems to last a week
> if whoever is pushing the proposal is actually moving forward
> actively.  Either a consensus forms or it doesn't.  If there is
> consensus they actually can move forward without Council approval,
> though some choose to wait for the next Council meeting anyway.  If
> there isn't consensus then we usually make a decision at the next
> meeting, unless the proposal just isn't quite ready yet.  Usually if
> it isn't ready it is fairly obvious in the discussion.  Hint: if you
> are sitting on this really great idea, waiting until a week before the
> Council meeting to broach the topic isn't ideal.
> 
> Now, when somebody just throws an idea out there and maybe asks the
> Council if it is a good idea, but nobody is all that interested in
> implementing it, then obviously it will sit around forever.  We all
> probably have lots of good ideas.  There is no harm in bouncing them
> off the lists; maybe somebody will be inspired and implement it, or
> we'll come up with an even better idea.  However, in the end we have
> to recognize that a volunteer distro is the result of the stuff people
> have bothered to actually implement.
> 
> Then there are the discussions that just keep coming up, but they're
> usually just discussions.  We can argue about whether A is better than
> B, but typically these discussions don't actually have any practical
> impact on how Gentoo is governed.  9/10 times we have some way to let
> A and B co-exist in the distro if anybody cares to put the work in,
> and whether one is better than the other certainly inspires passions
> but doesn't really impact repo policy.
> 
> Now, if you want every idea to hit the ~arch tree two days after it is
> proposed, you're going to struggle to find any distro that can
> accommodate you.  Reasonable QA depends on all the developers
> following the same set of rules, and good luck with that if the rules
> are changing faster than anybody can stay on top of, likely including
> the QA team.  As annoying as talking about changes are, we talk about
> them because dealing with the aftermath of slowly working them out in
> production is far worse.
> 
> Maybe I'm just out of touch (in which case somebody should cluebat me
> with some examples), but I feel like protracted discussions are
> something that we haven't really had in a while, at least not on
> technical matters.
> 
Perhaps my tone was misread: I don't personally have any problems with
the way we do things. I think discussion is super important if we're
going to get volunteers to carry out change. As much as I don't like to
draw the similarity, it's kinda like work: workers won't want to do your
bidding or care unless they're invested and feel some level of autonomy.
The same is doubly so in a volunteer environment.

As for protracted discussions, it really depends on where you draw the
line at 'protracted'. Maybe a week isn't long enough for me to call
protracted. Maybe even 2 weeks isn't. Some of them *feel* protracted,
but again that's not always a bad thing, especially if the subject is
high-impact. Simply learning how other devs feel about a given idea
means something. Most of our discussions last about a week or two and
then fizzle, or smoothly go into the implementation or design phase,
where discussion's more concrete and actionable.

Just to be clear, I'm not complaining or including anything personal
here. It was an observation, nothing more. :)
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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Pacho Ramos]

El mar, 14-06-2016 a las 21:50 +0200, Michał Górny escribió:
> [...]
> - and pacho.
> 

Sadly it would be hard to me to be able to join to IRC meeting in a
reliable way, then, for this year, I will need to pass 

But thanks for thinking on me :)

Regards!

[gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto]

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On 03-06-2016 23:38, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:


Dear Gentoo community,

the council election will open later tonight at 2016-06-19 00:00 UTC.
The election booth will remain open until 2014-07-03 00:00 UTC.
The election page for this election[1], contains all the information
about the election.

  [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606

Please let us know if you find any issues with the page or with the
election. In particular, make sure you're listed as a voter[2] or you
won't be able to vote in the election.

 [2] -
https://projects.gentoo.org/elections/council/2016/voters-council-201606.txt

The rules for the Council election as well as details on how to vote for
this election are available in the Council Elections Archives[3]. In any
case, here is the quick procedure on how to vote using votify:

     * If you're eligible to vote in this election, log in to
dev.gentoo.org
     * Type votify --new council-201606 to create a new ballot file
     * Edit .ballot-council-201606 file in your home directory and rank
the candidates
     * Once you're finished, use votify --verify council-201606 command
to verify the validity of your ballot file
     * If everything is okay, use votify --submit council-201606 to
submit your vote. Don't forget your vote doesn't count until you
submit it.
     * If you run into problems, you can either work them out yourself
using votify --help or contact election officials and ask them for help

The elections for the Council include the pseudo _reopen_nominations
candidate. If the pseudo-candidate '_reopen_nominations' appears in
7th place or higher those candidates that rank above
'_reopen_nominations' will be the current council. A second period of
election will be opened for the remaining council seats. No third
period of election will be opened in the event '_repoen_nominations'
ranks higher than the candidates necessary to fill the council[4].

In case there's a need to fill a seat during the council term due to a
retirement, if no candidate ranked above the _reopen_nominations_
candidate, a new election must be held to fill that seat. If
there were candidates ranked above the _reopen_nominations_ candidate,
it's up to the remaining council members to accept the next candidate in
order of voting or open an election to fill the open seat.

  [3] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council
  [4] -
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20090212-summary.txt

> Dear Gentoo Community,
> 
> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
> 
> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
> the same mailing list.
> 
> Here are the rules:
> 
>     * Council elections generally happen once a year
>     * The council is composed of seven elected members
>     * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
> 00H00 UTC
>     * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
>     * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
>     * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
>     * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
>       (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
> infra team has time to set up everything)
>     * Only Gentoo developers may vote
>     * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
> by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
>     * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
>     * Results should be published around July 4th
> 
> The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
> information regarding the election.
> 
>  [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
> 
> If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
> the project page[2].
> 
>  [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
> 
> If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
> the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
> IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).
> 
> Officials:
> 
> Chris Reffett (creffett)
> Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
> Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)
> 
> Infra Contact
> Alex Legler (a3li)

For the elections team,

> For the elections team,
> 
> - --
> Regards,
> 
> Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
> Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
> 



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[gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto]

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On 18-06-2016 18:11, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> On 03-06-2016 23:38, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear Gentoo community,
> 
> the council election will open later tonight at 2016-06-19 00:00 UTC.
> The election booth will remain open until 2014-07-03 00:00 UTC.
> The election page for this election[1], contains all the information
> about the election.
> 
>   [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606

Dear Gentoo community,

this is a reminder that we have less than 1 week left for voting.
We're currently at under 20% turnout, so all those that haven't cast a
vote yet, might want to do that now.

Timestamp: 2016-06-26 17:40:01 UTC
Eligable voters: 242
Submitted votes: 48
Pending votes: 4
Turnout: 19.835%
Pending Turnout: 21.488%

As we only have 4 manifestos listed in the election page[1], I'd suggest
candidates without one, to help increase turnout by publishing their
manifestos.

> Please let us know if you find any issues with the page or with the
> election. In particular, make sure you're listed as a voter[2] or you
> won't be able to vote in the election.
> 
>  [2] -
> https://projects.gentoo.org/elections/council/2016/voters-council-201606.txt
> 
> The rules for the Council election as well as details on how to vote for
> this election are available in the Council Elections Archives[3]. In any
> case, here is the quick procedure on how to vote using votify:
> 
>      * If you're eligible to vote in this election, log in to
> dev.gentoo.org
>      * Type votify --new council-201606 to create a new ballot file
>      * Edit .ballot-council-201606 file in your home directory and rank
> the candidates
>      * Once you're finished, use votify --verify council-201606 command
> to verify the validity of your ballot file
>      * If everything is okay, use votify --submit council-201606 to
> submit your vote. Don't forget your vote doesn't count until you
> submit it.
>      * If you run into problems, you can either work them out yourself
> using votify --help or contact election officials and ask them for help
> 
> The elections for the Council include the pseudo _reopen_nominations
> candidate. If the pseudo-candidate '_reopen_nominations' appears in
> 7th place or higher those candidates that rank above
> '_reopen_nominations' will be the current council. A second period of
> election will be opened for the remaining council seats. No third
> period of election will be opened in the event '_repoen_nominations'
> ranks higher than the candidates necessary to fill the council[4].
> 
> In case there's a need to fill a seat during the council term due to a
> retirement, if no candidate ranked above the _reopen_nominations_
> candidate, a new election must be held to fill that seat. If
> there were candidates ranked above the _reopen_nominations_ candidate,
> it's up to the remaining council members to accept the next candidate in
> order of voting or open an election to fill the open seat.
> 
>   [3] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council
>   [4] -
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20090212-summary.txt
> 
>> Dear Gentoo Community,
>>
>> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
>> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
>> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
>>
>> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
>> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
>> the same mailing list.
>>
>> Here are the rules:
>>
>>     * Council elections generally happen once a year
>>     * The council is composed of seven elected members
>>     * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
>> 00H00 UTC
>>     * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
>>     * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
>>     * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
>>     * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
>>       (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
>> infra team has time to set up everything)
>>     * Only Gentoo developers may vote
>>     * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
>> by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
>>     * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
>>     * Results should be published around July 4th
>>
>> The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
>> information regarding the election.
>>
>>  [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
>>
>> If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
>> the project page[2].
>>
>>  [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
>>
>> If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
>> the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
>> IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).
>>
>> Officials:
>>
>> Chris Reffett (creffett)
>> Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
>> Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)
>>
>> Infra Contact
>> Alex Legler (a3li)

For the elections team,

> For the elections team,
> 
>> For the elections team,
>>
>> - --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
>> Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
>>



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Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Andrew Savchenko]

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On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 17:45:27 +0000 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> On 18-06-2016 18:11, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> > On 03-06-2016 23:38, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Dear Gentoo community,
> > 
> > the council election will open later tonight at 2016-06-19 00:00 UTC.
> > The election booth will remain open until 2014-07-03 00:00 UTC.
> > The election page for this election[1], contains all the information
> > about the election.
> > 
> >   [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
> 
> Dear Gentoo community,
> 
> this is a reminder that we have less than 1 week left for voting.
> We're currently at under 20% turnout, so all those that haven't cast a
> vote yet, might want to do that now.
> 
> Timestamp: 2016-06-26 17:40:01 UTC
> Eligable voters: 242
> Submitted votes: 48
> Pending votes: 4
> Turnout: 19.835%
> Pending Turnout: 21.488%
> 
> As we only have 4 manifestos listed in the election page[1], I'd suggest
> candidates without one, to help increase turnout by publishing their
> manifestos.

I can't say for others, but I'm waiting for more manifestos before
submitting my vote. So manifestos are really welcome :)

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko

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Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Rich Freeman]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
<jmbsvicetto@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> As we only have 4 manifestos listed in the election page[1], I'd suggest
> candidates without one, to help increase turnout by publishing their
> manifestos.
>

++

https://dev.gentoo.org/~rich0/council-manifesto-2016.txt

-- 
Rich

Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Justin <jlec>]

On 26/06/2016 11:02 pm, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
> <jmbsvicetto@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>> As we only have 4 manifestos listed in the election page[1], I'd suggest
>> candidates without one, to help increase turnout by publishing their
>> manifestos.
>>
> 
> ++
> 
> https://dev.gentoo.org/~rich0/council-manifesto-2016.txt
> 


Hi everyone

My manifesto will be quite short this year:

* I will more or less exclusively focus my Gentoo work on the my council
seat
* I will support change as much as possible to move forward
* I will support any legacy cleanup which will brought forward
* I will support enthusiastic individuals

Basically I will continue the same way I made decisions this year.

Best,
Justin

Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election

[Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto]

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Dear Gentoo community,

let me start by apologizing for another "spam" message. On the bright
side, I promise this is the last one about voting for this election ;-)
I just want to recall everyone that the bells at the voting booth have
now started ringing as we're under 48 hours left to cast a vote. If you
haven't had a chance to cast your vote yet, please hurry up to the
election booth.

On 26-06-2016 17:45, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> On 18-06-2016 18:11, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
>> On 03-06-2016 23:38, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:

<snip>

> As we only have 4 manifestos listed in the election page[1], I'd suggest
> candidates without one, to help increase turnout by publishing their
> manifestos.

I want to thank all the candidates that have published their manifestos
- it seems to have helped with the turnout.

Election: council-201606
Timestamp: 2016-07-01 01:10:01 UTC
Eligable voters: 242
Submitted votes: 75
Pending votes: 3
Turnout: 30.992%
Pending Turnout: 32.231%

Finally, as the deadline approaches, if you have already voted, please
make sure you did run "votify --submit council-201606" or check that
your ballot is named ".ballot-council-201606-submitted" and not
".ballot-council-201606" or your vote won't count!!

>> Please let us know if you find any issues with the page or with the
>> election. In particular, make sure you're listed as a voter[2] or you
>> won't be able to vote in the election.
>>
>>  [2] -
>> https://projects.gentoo.org/elections/council/2016/voters-council-201606.txt
>>
>> The rules for the Council election as well as details on how to vote for
>> this election are available in the Council Elections Archives[3]. In any
>> case, here is the quick procedure on how to vote using votify:
>>
>>      * If you're eligible to vote in this election, log in to
>> dev.gentoo.org
>>      * Type votify --new council-201606 to create a new ballot file
>>      * Edit .ballot-council-201606 file in your home directory and rank
>> the candidates
>>      * Once you're finished, use votify --verify council-201606 command
>> to verify the validity of your ballot file
>>      * If everything is okay, use votify --submit council-201606 to
>> submit your vote. Don't forget your vote doesn't count until you
>> submit it.
>>      * If you run into problems, you can either work them out yourself
>> using votify --help or contact election officials and ask them for help
>>
>> The elections for the Council include the pseudo _reopen_nominations
>> candidate. If the pseudo-candidate '_reopen_nominations' appears in
>> 7th place or higher those candidates that rank above
>> '_reopen_nominations' will be the current council. A second period of
>> election will be opened for the remaining council seats. No third
>> period of election will be opened in the event '_repoen_nominations'
>> ranks higher than the candidates necessary to fill the council[4].
>>
>> In case there's a need to fill a seat during the council term due to a
>> retirement, if no candidate ranked above the _reopen_nominations_
>> candidate, a new election must be held to fill that seat. If
>> there were candidates ranked above the _reopen_nominations_ candidate,
>> it's up to the remaining council members to accept the next candidate in
>> order of voting or open an election to fill the open seat.
>>
>>   [3] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council
>>   [4] -
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20090212-summary.txt
>>
>>> Dear Gentoo Community,
>>>
>>> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2016 / 2017 election will start at
>>> 00:00 UTC 2016/06/04 (Saturday) and will remain open for the next two
>>> weeks until 00:00 UTC, 2016/06/18 (Friday).
>>>
>>> All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-project mailing list. If you
>>> were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on
>>> the same mailing list.
>>>
>>> Here are the rules:
>>>
>>>     * Council elections generally happen once a year
>>>     * The council is composed of seven elected members
>>>     * Nominations are allowed from June 4th 00H00 UTC to June 18th
>>> 00H00 UTC
>>>     * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated
>>>     * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK)
>>>     * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins
>>>     * Voting is opened from June 19th 00H00 UTC to July 3rd 00H00 UTC
>>>       (there is one day of break between nominations and voting so the
>>> infra team has time to set up everything)
>>>     * Only Gentoo developers may vote
>>>     * The list of Gentoo Developers is based on active membership
>>> by June 3rd, 2016 (the day before the election was opened)
>>>     * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting
>>>     * Results should be published around July 4th
>>>
>>> The election page for this election[1] will contain all pertinent
>>> information regarding the election.
>>>
>>>  [1] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Elections/Council/201606
>>>
>>> If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it on
>>> the project page[2].
>>>
>>>  [2] - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council
>>>
>>> If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of
>>> the election officials through the alias (elections@g.o) or at
>>> IRC (Freenode #gentoo-elections).
>>>
>>> Officials:
>>>
>>> Chris Reffett (creffett)
>>> Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto)
>>> Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon)
>>>
>>> Infra Contact
>>> Alex Legler (a3li)

For the elections team,

> For the elections team,
> 
>> For the elections team,
>>
>>> For the elections team,
>>>
>>> - --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
>>> Gentoo- forums / ComRel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
>>>
> 
> 



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