From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37E83139085 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 21:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68EED2340DB; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 21:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-x242.google.com (mail-qt0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C1942340D9 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 21:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-x242.google.com with SMTP id n13so12360876qtc.0 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 13:00:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=dXArY0px0NPJduHAoxv6saARqLGhxjQUCHjhrFx0/X0=; b=oDwJdZrbyCR/T6teS9POVAgQNQlvBqzpnJq/a/0D42I6jWDa5qHJasjJWuOy6Nuq81 hRdKb5bR4Hblm3xOzXXPgeDWIxjNjNecr90GY/IzMu135d+ASjCvnSovMqS+OasdiESi sU8c39ivac+OAQxy1XZ+hiqJwyaFOjZc8/NIS5k8ypkn2IDwuaCAUHIEH4+erI2quH38 WpYvnE6p0Xz4vvEP/okoKsUwjnyWEUfTHpKhpiRrpAGiEcyRIU37KGHjVDVfSuTQ93MP a85B9XdMAGiqeszI2djRXnGwm1JLlIOLiTbGgYMd3Kq0kKJtJo0p9g1zHFIcglxzgphW ruOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=dXArY0px0NPJduHAoxv6saARqLGhxjQUCHjhrFx0/X0=; b=TecmOsjjOR+HMe1ner+xuYMWkPoxRQHfQaztHISqLRSDxGq0RmH4uZr4Q1pXuqxeeq RzA7aen1jt/UcJnpu4KtJCaG1vAW+NQV6WYPNNFbmPV5u3dtQx1SHzp6YWCLgHA5if5X P6lEShjMvMReodOrYw4+HnBCO2uT/gSqVCLdhR3yO/OLRWR4Jg0iNgTh9AUn+tqMxFNW JUu2oDRIfjaypAQUUgSlsJzDF0+4W82UAcpWj7KMrK7aHjC3GlyziaIj5cnawkC/3jc4 3FjniGPOxMGmkTU69FY5fp452g+tTmgx5d1ARaOQhNOZPlD1zha14wh6PC5h75CbgqPA B4KQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKsEMnK6ciF1+NvQ5eITr9OfJGBkaypQZvao31WJWwYel43X3h+VimZeayaDCkdLjcGG9fplLjc3NzOSA== X-Received: by 10.200.53.150 with SMTP id k22mr28611777qtb.19.1484514056464; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 13:00:56 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.16.132 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 13:00:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1604622.bZRWYHrp25@pinacolada> <98230e5a-36ed-283a-2d5d-a62c2901808e@gentoo.org> From: Rich Freeman Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:00:55 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: djmRlL_VKwxo7GFAb0QyS5iehJM Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Formally have Council oversee the Foundation 2.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: df327d8b-282c-4338-a66c-f05eb87fb2f5 X-Archives-Hash: ac9b775326f597784cc0cc81c609536a On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 3:28 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Saturday, January 14, 2017 8:16:58 PM EST Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> Honestly, saying that the Trustees legally have authority over the >> Council is a bit like saying that the MPAA legally has authority over >> anybody downloading torrents. > > The Council does not exist from a legal perspective. It has no legal > authority. Only Trustees can represent the Foundation legally. > I never claimed otherwise. However, this is a bit like saying that the MPAA has authority over The Pirate Bay because the latter doesn't really exist legally, at least not in the sense of a traditional corporation. There is a difference between having legal authority and having power. In a court of law there might not be a difference, but very little in the way of FOSS happens in courtrooms. -- Rich