From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509ED138A1A for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 57329E08A6; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-f178.google.com (mail-pd0-f178.google.com [209.85.192.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B112DE0884 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pdjz10 with SMTP id z10so43310320pdj.0 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 03:55:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=qQOnRd82ZADtrlRLAfF0vzPGx8GymiDRSQ/a3FFjIqw=; b=FAanNJ+n73xvHMq1GsZzl1Lv+tmDCRTgLsSXOc+9jGAP78WAMVHv9rm0M0/kBgvtRe /Ks3SVXU3jaLPMv07CJCcz3HHOLDlLSje0+ng/g7QyZp+OMntNTUUXms87QgWM8Cv1KK AKwABOiUzYgM0KZGusRF0uuUbmD03MzwSzxLaAJGzv7E6PeBRQv6SLkjqqKcgtMQaRdr Kj6sVhrzmn0YkjlSaH9ncnuGYGEdf9jVRCaulBE21jyekLWNTF+Cx+ttRmeQlNJUvO7g hPxDGJZE5tQg/5N+PLyBh3gZHElD7WL0hvFhKCKuhVgYG/GyU02iFJ88mbscAgYNV9yL nZFQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.70.34.177 with SMTP id a17mr47972357pdj.123.1424174112743; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 03:55:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.85.39 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 03:55:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201502142148.30540.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <54E007A4.5050504@gentoo.org> <54E16381.8020409@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:55:12 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dTgbLVcONbDDeWZrYyEvLHmpSWQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 271bc709-cca6-4e53-bea0-060d847451ea X-Archives-Hash: 3dc13491be6c357e388e400c23ded822 On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > On Mon, 16 Feb 2015, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> An area that always bothered me was stage3 building, but I think our >> catalyst docs have improved. I don't know if following the wiki guide >> leads to a stage3 identical to our published one or not... > > Rich, please make an effort to ask the correct people before making such > comments that can be misread as meaning that the RelEng team is building > stages "in secret" or questioning how anyone can be certain about what is > built. The only comments I made were: 1. IN THE PAST I was concerned about stage3 building. 2. Things have improved. 3. I am unsure if following the wiki guide leads to a stage3 identical to our published one or not. All three remain just as true after your comments. :) I'm certainly interested in clarification on the last one. It isn't actually enough to publish a repo full of files - you also have to document how you use them. That may very well already be documented in the Catalyst wiki page. As far as "misreading" goes - people will read what they want to read into just about anything that anybody says. I try to clearly state what I mean, and I'm sure I do it imperfectly. If somebody isn't sure what I mean, they're more than welcome to talk to me about it. -- Rich