From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9071139694 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 00:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 793C621C1AA; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 00:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-x22b.google.com (mail-yw0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4269121C0A2 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 00:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id r128so1681332ywg.2 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:29:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=JR2kb8tqCIax8kvlFER1pRX9n5HfkU8cFcx+3dJYriA=; b=i3m3StDch7OpeSFZbPBtQiTX4OdwF84RHNrED5cS9q6vzJ4URTyY3k+DboB2KZh+jn d6Q84HZcQRQG1uX950+LUbk8VukJiUfwLdg/SLLdv1RpVQQXx+DMDN2F0Q7daYWiT6/B yIS8z1Ra7gScgCDKlm9DxsxHpiRCMgnqjKfNz/0xqpEo1rk+8WXnHO3VHp1V0SEOcDra YBmpgMptWb41w5Ns5S82JSkQEkPBFxTAb3eH1s8ir4yTiYNcVo1TBGmZtt0hEr2afOdU vHLo3Iq1jtzZLCVPYHR+MEgj7UbB4otsZS5SyHtX53gZpL3ankEpgGr2ytvdloeQogW4 zHAA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=JR2kb8tqCIax8kvlFER1pRX9n5HfkU8cFcx+3dJYriA=; b=Kv3Tnrbv9f8ILOoUKVTHrwza2mEZDTaM5/+2kiNd0O2Tn5rBjI6jyVZ43/Ij0uhcZY 8HgoCn6vmuAYWGtFoLYjFeNZKQCm986X3rcD5FKh02G3T126Ai9rH85+5O1cJWELH9a9 7pgPka7N9LjUibwKxwAi6V0cYtFr/OV3/JS2EAWBaG5Oy4yqRj7oQj8pTWWBiaAeqGMy QHgoVtf4CsgMGdrChqSNsb87NGI83CGj6jcl0qQIYG3okwpWyfqYVtoutzxg7WCqrD/I vJJBUqXtb/0KjYn09oZFAJ3NqldIWV5feufB4bT35iQmXCbQuiwRRdw7kGVBWCH23hBO S41A== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H2fMMl+FHRMj2lF4p65oJrU4hnXiOK3FgIesXDichPknEjEH61lggDEkuLsjgUGOSLDAoZ0SMvhlyV1PA== X-Received: by 10.13.209.70 with SMTP id t67mr38331529ywd.148.1491870587200; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.129.169.70 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:29:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <27130011.JyUlhVfQXu@pinacolada> From: Rich Freeman Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:29:46 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SruH1Q8FfedFTvCwwFWNWDc9Jqk Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Per-sender rate limiting our mailing lists To: gentoo-project Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: e5881b1e-a4ff-49d6-987d-eb8b58b05732 X-Archives-Hash: 0dad7b41a4237ccd1f9dbba35b742cc0 On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:22 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > I think you should be more concerned with the fact there has not been a > single new developer yet in 2017. Rather than trying to further > restrict and limit a community that is NOT attracting new blood or > growing really. Which was one of the fastest growing communities. > Heh. If I read threads like this every other month on the -dev mailing list I wouldn't want to be a dev either. IMO until we block the ability for people to go on endlessly about how Gentoo is dying on our lists I doubt anything will change. Reading nonsense like this hardly inspires me to go work on ebuilds. Neither does being pestered by 3 other devs about replying to trolls. The simplest solution is probably to just moderate any posts by non-devs, and use comrel to deal with abuse by devs. Problem solved. -- Rich