From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B23A01382C5 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 11:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE1CDE0949; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 11:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ej1-f44.google.com (mail-ej1-f44.google.com [209.85.218.44]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD4E4E0931 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 11:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ej1-f44.google.com with SMTP id mb16so2082555ejb.4 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 04:23:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mI+YjU0F0CEWLPfxd0SLRBkB7HKQmsomQSyG9+PTMHM=; b=BNwVhjABAxAaktVueFN1+NRwc/RYO6jxa+jTogBc5E/1y6iBWljlYAVC/l+wU8x91C baZq9bKNIue5jKaW3VoZo5mrkNgRoI+xYtaKJKLs/ks4SLHG1kwuXyYdUZYjWr/oyMJB ZVH1bl+m/v4fAkWTqXmGY+Q9kX0TyGt2UbfWbVG/mInLxvygnKP++7fRQCRuUIsj6b/8 vruu/wCpLP2GfHEZ0Bs6IgXZK8MTViwSP9LxxtFK47oyxzIE4JcRfeLMmXKo9mgnIH3q mY+komc92iWHMtlI8QQ9gVdioK7CTPnfvqo3kACAU7RYAddHSG6VJQ3wKPTNHuV6YCuI NvPw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5319jYNediVHCdPc5AOAcLEzZhvrbOdpLsL1S+bQzZBe+Cm90P5g uJHWqkEajXfL82f0fDRleNC4TK0XIrIKHeoY/iQScovl X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwAtTjDiEbiLSa9RbdfAwDKkHZ0c7JiXJB1e4bEbl4uuWz7OmgK8kjD2+nDUV3SmGjMaoL3K9V2E5Vk/CfYCHM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:c14f:: with SMTP id dp15mr1341832ejc.454.1592997797323; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 04:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3204185.sfYGdeWWPf@farino> In-Reply-To: From: Rich Freeman Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:23:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Corporate affiliations of Council members To: gentoo-project Cc: Alec Warner Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 559ad4d4-9418-4edc-90cf-bd96cff3e7b9 X-Archives-Hash: 96a34c9148f0a295d74d4f4e60fe6857 On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:53 AM Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny = wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-06-24 at 00:17 +0300, Andreas K. H=C3=BCttel wrote: > > Am Montag, 22. Juni 2020, 21:56:06 EEST schrieb Alec Warner: > > > I'm not sure why we would single out employment here; surely there ar= e > > > other potential relationships that could give rise to conflicts? Why = are > > > these excluded from disclosure? > > > > > > > Because money is a powerful (and socially accepted) incentive. > > > > To be honest, he's right. Money is not specific to employment. Imagine > someone running a Gentoo fork, with its own community, donations or > other source of income. It's still money, still potential source of > conflict, but not employment ;-). Like when Gentoo implements something > their distro boasted of, and now their users may choose vanilla Gentoo. Most organizations have a policy around conflicts of interest (in part because if you're 501c3 the IRS will ask you every year if you have one). Receiving money from an organization certainly is on that list. Usually ownership, being on a board or being an officer in an org is listed as well (which might cover this). Family relationships with people in those situations are also usually on the list. Beyond that though I think that a lot of things that are considered a "conflict of interest" around here are not considered conflicts in most organization. I've beaten that horse to death and I suspect my opinion is in the minority on that point (within Gentoo, but not outside of this org), so I'll leave it at that. --=20 Rich