From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-project+bounces-1734-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1RXP8h-0001Ra-8S for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 03:22:47 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 398F221C037; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 03:22:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D1C21C023 for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 03:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzu5 with SMTP id zu5so4959537bkb.40 for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 19:22:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=exVBkVV0zRSKR0ZGd7+p8pvP3MP12UcTmUJpSWJ9JQs=; b=kCFKx1uzaF6kVPzZdUcxEVFUx7exHU55cx05rEuBJ/eE6kJdOMk/bJ8qss+0atj4z9 J/AGBIhlgau3fbLxVWSYHWfcILdYq46HVWO2pVlpYV4oTu5/u9Kyix/BXqJ9S5nI5Ia0 pB47CuOqY7FfeXlIeCqEk2I78u1BDUtG+psZ4= Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-project+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list <gentoo-project.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.136 with SMTP id o8mr3527840bkw.112.1323055346437; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 19:22:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.121.2 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 19:22:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EDC358A.3070808@gentoo.org> References: <20111203103024.GN37825@gentoo.org> <4EDB80F8.1090800@gentoo.org> <20111204152254.GE780@gentoo.org> <4EDB94E2.8090007@gentoo.org> <4EDB9F31.9020601@gentoo.org> <4EDC29DE.3000905@gentoo.org> <CAGfcS_nMcXjYTSbLT-AKQJJvqjCpWF8qJXUa8DiGbgN8Dk3Ctw@mail.gmail.com> <4EDC358A.3070808@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 22:22:26 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _bTFq3uQyEXWdQRxfKx_1hl3qEQ Message-ID: <CAGfcS_k_UsEaStOdajqCp0NiZa_x8sZK7bp-q1cKFNf+RLWudg@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13 From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: d070b557-d2db-4fcf-acc3-bc2e4b518fd3 X-Archives-Hash: 8e32c87686a88bb6b98e7eed90bd91a0 2011/12/4 Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n <chithanh@gentoo.org>: > I don't know which forum post you are referring to, but in the linked > forums.g.o poll[1] the old vs. the new default is currently at 52-28 > with the rest opting for the compromise or something else. -v is not itself a default, so if it controls the quiet output then essentially a stock gentoo emerge command will be quiet. I'd consider that just another variance on quiet-by-default. Otherwise the poll is like asking Americans whether they prefer the Republicans, Democracts, Greens, Communists, Socialists, Moderate Democrats, Conservative Democrats, Liberal Democrats, Ordinary Democrats, Good-looking Democrats, or Reformed Democrats, and then pronouncing that Republicans outnumber Democrats 48%-10%. I won't dispute that a majority seem to prefer the old way - but 52-28 isn't really a clear depiction of this. And no, this shouldn't warrant having the elections team run a Condorcent vote (which should handle issues like this). Rich