From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E74F139085 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D160821C08A; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk0-x244.google.com (mail-qk0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FBF721C088 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk0-x244.google.com with SMTP id 11so16817857qkl.0 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:06:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=LIcPruGgzXL15cZzMGZEvqQA6j/XtJxJcfqSqHpSRsA=; b=nYztZ3IsibzkFqz1x6mO5XYcZdRSrieTOjdQAJM/wla/mKaUrxrAuCJ26Dx4c0Mfyz B+qbY/YvJ1oLP7cvh+2TRKMKXBvSZNhBk4nPSCxbCNzmRvrGaM8OKbfwdZKRaAfOl3Ka dVqikksQXPH0rW/wJt4CyeeLHZ6i650ZEA2tSqUi8g2Mcf7iWxKCd5uAv3SlFWvAmRDU qfkHEWSzLwiVg0Z+wgw4ImRcgXykFlv+rafPG7WHG+N6e3qLc6jW1FIYay67M+d6tkuK CNaT6Pc/5ADxefHMiYbyth/qiLTKfBwPnfdvYJuJwgWxdDdsPuZXWgj9sJIhzJFHZ+yj Z2zA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=LIcPruGgzXL15cZzMGZEvqQA6j/XtJxJcfqSqHpSRsA=; b=WMzpld40qtAPK/IFOnyDaV9nvJx9TJzXbP6D7hhF2SA5dHr1cbjftfN7flAQ7xV8cB EQAgwzmbOljdH1VVhTyLr9saXllfJwb4V0mLwgDBsdVdPbeVRCfPxf+HMM2whNLd+Zst 7gDYn5l4+VPdmc4MRBekOAs0/RYfISwq3Gc2ozTL5TM3rQVrY0T8IArw6jPVa87N7yy4 oA2KtdXDPWUOWhJpIIwzky90WijbeAd2i7TaOMsyvUFgbXRSrOTTXZNhICDiJuVoTppc msbQTAGaGWUlrG83o1ONjfKOemyjlUdWHnIhtbLcpPHh6d7ESZZCoM12QWML8VgUVtYs 8I6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJ3QRLGiqkf+oz365rxpoikxaGptTvk/NkzTG5qe8VwieP69BbRqTWa7PeRzAo0Dtra9ktLGMg9I+tgdg== X-Received: by 10.55.26.159 with SMTP id l31mr31206104qkh.164.1484579170551; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:06:10 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.16.132 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:06:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1604622.bZRWYHrp25@pinacolada> From: Rich Freeman Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:06:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _s6El3M0yR8gzGiz7qhaoqD4NhY Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Formally have Council oversee the Foundation 2.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 01d4688f-41d2-4be2-bf2f-1bd1dbac245d X-Archives-Hash: a08f4e3d091d1bbb99ccb062878e8110 On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:52 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Sunday, January 15, 2017 3:59:12 PM EST Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 3:31 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. >> >> wrote: >> > On Saturday, January 14, 2017 8:16:58 PM EST Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> If we want legal advice it would make far more sense to retain >> >> legal counsel, or maybe work with an organization that does so. >> > >> > How will you go about retaining legal advice? Who will have Legal >> > authority to speak to legal counsel? Who will legally represent Gentoo? >> >> I was referring to the Foundation obtaining counsel in advance of a >> move to something like SPI. > > Trustees are the only ones with legal authority who could retain any counsel. > I never claimed otherwise. If we were going to transition to the SPI the Trustees would oversee the change. > > The SPI provides legal assistance, it does not take over all legal matters and > also uses the SFLC. Gentoo may still need its own legal representation. Their > legal assistance is also at their discretion, unlike other services. > If we moved to SPI we would dissolve the Foundation. There would be no "Gentoo" to seek legal representation. And since they're the ones who have to worry about getting sued, it really shouldn't be a concern that legal assistance is at their discretion. The onus would actually be on them to ensure that we're not doing things that will get them sued, not the other way around. Obviously we would be good tennents, and Gentoo generally tries to follow the law anyway. Most of the areas we struggle are areas that would go away under SPI. -- Rich