From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C431D13933E for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2021 21:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1133E0DA9; Wed, 7 Jul 2021 21:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ot1-f41.google.com (mail-ot1-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2F6CE0DA9 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2021 21:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ot1-f41.google.com with SMTP id 59-20020a9d0ac10000b0290462f0ab0800so3668286otq.11 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2021 14:24:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=/SYgL12AP5bGhUo9rV11yF+pQ4NuBlnOWDfN845BwdI=; b=bEd/9jmo7zp+Aaku5fjQ1Q0RXZGivu276fuy/dtDm++ngr+tw5djf4puSPLKsOOMNj OlE4ThAoy7SYdvM8Zbq2OlfBXkDVWEH5AwBRG+vbvidtZkzKZ3D0nrB3+X0F3g4inIUP B2uQEt/4yoVZa87FQgnOe83tn/rqCBkJ0ml1sJbaSukK2RFs4ob8pLBsfoBJSCllN9EO 4/m24nBn9npqCpHoumGKyyJ98do729x5kx+iiiw4Q3BvKKJO3vx4BS/prbo0ldtyV+Uc lTfxY/3r2vMpXR0OUBQsJufN+KJDa1a/wvxy11M85ayvFE8lsrFnuxxMZ/Hvz9OXlon3 jB2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531TnBht4S6tcwXIE5y/dpji20oKI6NjHFAdGD9/Ba1QdHhtrDIw PGZWxXKmdRwGi11HLFf/S9RqQ/VJO3u46SW2vyxdQyWV X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzToEThWaeI03PBYVZcPCUCpTXczEU8B0d/F4AW4DnhJzqSLkG7lO1+qiTZK/Kp1bp4gyI9uTnaA/eY4U7qzGw= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6a93:: with SMTP id l19mr20491123otq.223.1625693056658; Wed, 07 Jul 2021 14:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Rich Freeman Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 17:24:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2021-07-11 - call for agenda items To: gentoo-project Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 2b394db8-ad45-4f8c-8bd4-5de8494d4406 X-Archives-Hash: ee4b707a28ab713eba0a970a13b3c657 On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 4:28 PM Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 07:31:22AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 5:27 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> On Wed, 07 Jul 2021, Robin H Johnson wrote: > > > > > > > TL;DR: > > > > Please change the format of metadata/AUTHORS to yaml-based list of "key: > > > > [value,...]" where key is the identity of a Gentoo developer, and the > > > > list is copyright holders that the developer has worked for. > > > > > you can't assume that somebody introducing > > commits owned by some entity is employed or even associated with that > > entity. > I populated the example list based on tying the "Copyright: Sony Interactive > Entertainment Inc." commit messages to the author of those commits. I was responding to the wording of your proposal: "the list is copyright holders that the developer has worked for." If I commit something copyrighted by Google, that doesn't make me a Google employee, or suggest that I've done work on their behalf in any way. I (probably without their knowledge) just copy/pasted their code into the repo, under the terms of whatever license they released the code under. You could change the wording to: "...where key is the identify of a Gentoo developer, and the list are entities who own the copyright to parts of commits the developer has made." I really don't see the value though in making this association. What good is it to know that somewhere in somebody's long list of commits that there might be a few lines originally created by the Apache Foundation or whatever? In the case of actual employment it might make more sense if there are extensive works for hire, but not if somebody just one time committed one patch file that held somebody else's copyright. -- Rich