From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S37X1-0001nk-Gt for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:02:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C289DE087F for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4000FE086B for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4so473933bkw.40 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 04:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of freemanrich@gmail.com designates 10.204.131.90 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.131.90; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of freemanrich@gmail.com designates 10.204.131.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=freemanrich@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=freemanrich@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.131.90]) by 10.204.131.90 with SMTP id w26mr2501117bks.55.1330604569251 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 01 Mar 2012 04:22:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qHDXFOh/YEsI5GeVkPl5PNjXUIwKTqV/CCkhLA/eGbU=; b=lEVlivEnOOgCoqScuKdFnTQzA5fXu3jWMeO68hci86X4CrtyNJ5/1WEzCeA+uuYohh uWBYolOPSwgE+sDGr5B9puQYNmKSajn7j+91CMoXQLnP8gbv9bYUS9jCnyapsjJsum70 HUeQpiD6jVATCbGJ9/rodozJ9lZn+F/7+tNxo= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.131.90 with SMTP id w26mr1994088bks.55.1330604569146; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 04:22:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.205.32.194 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 04:22:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120301080036.GC756@gentoo.org> References: <20120228211133.GO27655@gentoo.org> <20120301080036.GC756@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 07:22:49 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Hd1WDC37oJEmE7HZeJLv-BfJZHE Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2012-03-13 From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 645065e2-d959-4325-a48f-03a2c190feb1 X-Archives-Hash: e694c903b299b7442f64faf480710a0c On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > For 1), for many people it's a waste, and it's not POSIX (=3D=3D C IIRC),= so > should we really do that. =A0Also, how about this changing default for > existing systems. =A0Why not update the docs to strongly suggest to set a= n > UTF-8 profile instead. If we do go with the update-the-docs approach, perhaps we should consider still including a locale file in env.d, explicitly set the default there, and then have the UTF-8 entries (perhaps a few common ones) commented out in that file? Then changing to utf-8 is just a matter of swapping the comment marks. That at least standardizes the approach taken for new installs and is more instructive. We already do something similar with locale.gen. Rich