From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D252139085 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62B6121C0E1; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-x241.google.com (mail-qt0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3560621C08B for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-x241.google.com with SMTP id f4so24129940qte.2 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:20:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=t24elUI2oauGb/SQkIu5tnNdn4QZow4v/co0RLwJhCM=; b=iiYj1b1RT8yaQbcQnR68OcgT3KETkmwaSdceEiichFe4xAi8PuKVrhWOZ7Z0TwA0XR hESShjRxjwLOGNkG66NNk5ZAw0HbL4sL6HY5vqJ7L5UD/l1pdhGdSqHNCILrxbaIIzpN lyFL9rT1z878bxhfqB84sTamKij5kbowmu28C37ci8EIp6Inj6zn1HUQW6o2xpj1/0kj +4xLR/r3TNFb+fAT+t2cgkDHDRGGjSxQXvmrmMvz+jj9FqqygUdGNMgvqpXTz77IQEAH 43SjcyG2n1X7EI55ayXw/vsHvcvnpaoQ7pNL1uWjgq9YH2fKzNoGgW4b/zPvzj3Ws8qt c4EA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=t24elUI2oauGb/SQkIu5tnNdn4QZow4v/co0RLwJhCM=; b=hwKLq8WqR3DvMisGol3TTtRvZ7eUv3HPRa6DT/F9lytlIIpno4Fb6EIq0UjquWG4iY NsVAek72rMhXbQzX2lWFMZ6oi3kZST4ZscGJUgHIeYWNkvL/5RoD6X/WI1uq/+V+R8wp pf18hPGpV1IUhrzP7Vtt4iqadJVkTj27P1Ebsa7+OIsYR/77GXcmuTWqVzxGqrcu3FQN MVwiQzWNgkS3/kL9Z8giesv4xrKhiSTj293rB12wfMzSlCDj5hx32JWY1If7K/lqu5rE ondQrq/4uNleNyagjxe1lHNI8ayMYH3zZmykTVFoDVIEMxZ90INF2J4KMU1XaXoQLmxW ezkg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLzYENEwNhk8stDeLzpirg4Q4Td/GUs9cHn6FNOKt9cR6GlWgUxwme344qxzVRRDFXu3n9W6zIZKDazxQ== X-Received: by 10.55.217.16 with SMTP id u16mr4732106qki.161.1484684414201; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:20:14 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.16.132 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:20:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20170115195209.70d3a748.mgorny@gentoo.org> From: Rich Freeman Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:20:13 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jaweb-JKUHxdnmpRsnUSXGcuIEU Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] ComRel / disciplinary action reform proposal To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: b42fec57-c850-46c5-a977-be3519ed5366 X-Archives-Hash: f77ade5ba180f5789f38b470273f1fc2 On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 2:40 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > I think all of that is a waste of everyone's time. I also see it as futile for > many reasons I stated, even if an appeal is won. It does not make others > forget the past, or start liking someone they do not. > Well, then, I'm not sure why you're still here. > Problems are much bigger and deeper than anything someone could appeal. How > does my reputation get appealed? Being painted as an outcast by a minority and > how I am treated, provoked in ways others are not. Has anybody divulged any information publicly which damaged your reputation? I've been trying to be careful to only repeat allegations that you have yourself posted, without confirming whether or not they are actually accurate. This is a big reason for the policy about not publicly announcing disciplinary actions. We DON'T want to harm the reputations of others. Now, if they go ruining their own reputations by posting about them, that is outside our control. -- Rich