Re: [gentoo-project] A GLEP for ComRel?

[Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>]

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 12:24 PM Matthew Thode
<prometheanfire@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> I'm sure there are times where action may be
> needed but what it sounds like is needed are more genral definitions of
> what the relationship between groups should be (how to hand off a high
> priority item for review/action).

IMO the scope of each is fairly clear-cut, and the few times we've had
to interact we already have a comrel liason on Proctors.  We really
only escalate serious repeat offenses/etc, and that basically just
involves sending them a complaint (much as any dev might), and
referencing what data we have (which is all public anyway, since
Proctors only deals with specific incidents that happen in public, and
not interpersonal issues in general).  There will never be a case
where a Comrel issue would get referred to Proctors, unless it was
just misdirected from the start.  If that were the case we'd just have
them assign us a bug/etc or otherwise ping us.

No harm in writing that down I suppose, but I'm not sure it is worth
it since I don't see this particular aspect of either group as
contentious.  Neither group really has special standing with the other
- when we refer issues to Comrel they basically go into a black hole
as far as we're concerned - it would be between that dev and Comrel,
since it wouldn't be a personal conflict issue from our standpoint.
We could continue to take action on future incidents like we always
would, and we don't have discretion to do permanent bans/etc.  If
Comrel issued a long-term ban then there would be no further incidents
for us to deal with.

While I'm not opposed to a single GLEP for Comrel plus Proctors (or
maybe even lump QA in there - there are potentially some common
elements like confirming leads), I'm not sure if that actually makes
things simpler.  IMO Comrel is more about dealing with people, and
Proctors is more about dealing with their specific posts/etc without
passing judgment on the individuals long-term fit in the community.
Proctors actions are definitely not intended to be punitive even if
they're bans - it is more about cooling down, bringing attention to
the CoC, and so on, and all bans are relatively short and
auto-reinstated with no further follow-up.  We also generally have
been avoiding being ban-heavy (well, aside from that spam a while ago)
and I'd like to see guidelines published further explaining our goals.

-- 
Rich