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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2015-04-14: call for agenda items
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 07:58:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_kOPSUBfc5MgRSm3XSYpdSstsJ4_s3+KfohVjuJSN-sDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21800.58269.511036.528321@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>

On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 5:04 AM, Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Apr 2015, Ben de Groot wrote:
>
>> On 6 April 2015 at 17:28, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>> Dnia 2015-04-02, o godz. 10:14:28
>>> I would like to ask the Council to confirm or reject the switch of
>>> libav/ffmpeg default to ffmpeg. I don't want to take a stand there
>>> but I'm concerned that our users will end up suffering a ping-pong
>>> of developers fighting and changing the defaults from time to time.
>>>
>>> [1]:https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/50c181372e098719b2573e7b16c74482
>
>> My reasons for the switch are summarized here:
>> https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/215e894205c6ca4a6e4e76291872ce95
>
>> If anything more is wanted, please let me know, and I'd be happy to
>> expand.
>
> This is nothing more than a change of a flag's default. Users can
> trivially override it with their own setting.
>
> IMHO the council shouldn't get involved in such micromanagement.

Well, ping-pong of any kind in the tree isn't a great thing.  However,
I don't anticipate that here.  It is fine to change a default in the
tree - I think we really only need the Council if we have two sets of
devs/projects/whatevers that are actively pushing for one vs another
and commit wars are a possibility.

If all the maintainers are fine with ffmpeg, just do it.  If ping-pong
becomes an actual issue I'm fine with it going to the Council.

But, in general anybody can ask the Council anything.  We can still
bring up the topic, though I suspect most of us will say "we're fine
with it, but don't feel like you have to ask us."  We'll see.

-- 
Rich


      reply	other threads:[~2015-04-11 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-02 14:14 [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2015-04-14: call for agenda items Tim Harder
2015-04-02 16:45 ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-04-03 19:33 ` [gentoo-project] " Michael Palimaka
2015-04-03 20:01   ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-03 20:13     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-04-04 14:31       ` Michael Palimaka
2015-04-04 15:13         ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-04 15:44           ` Michał Górny
2015-04-04 15:48           ` Michał Górny
2015-04-04 22:02           ` William Hubbs
2015-04-05 12:32             ` Pacho Ramos
2015-04-05 12:44               ` Ben de Groot
2015-04-05 19:50               ` William Hubbs
2015-04-05 20:20                 ` James Le Cuirot
2015-04-05 21:27                 ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-04-05 22:54                   ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-05 23:05                     ` Patrick Lauer
2015-04-06  0:47                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-06  7:55                         ` Michał Górny
2015-04-06 20:52                         ` Pacho Ramos
2015-04-06 22:22                           ` Matt Turner
2015-04-07 15:38                             ` Michael Palimaka
2015-04-07 23:25                               ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-04-07 23:29                                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-07 23:50                                   ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-04-08 11:51                                   ` William Hubbs
2015-04-08 13:33                                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-08 17:39                                       ` William Hubbs
2015-04-08 18:15                                         ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-08 22:41                                           ` William Hubbs
2015-04-09  0:01                                             ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-08 11:58                                   ` Michael Palimaka
2015-04-07 23:38                             ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-07 23:42                               ` Francesco Riosa
2015-04-08  0:01                               ` Matt Turner
2015-04-08  0:35                                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-05 23:38                     ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-04-06  7:59                       ` Michał Górny
2015-04-06 10:29                         ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-06 11:09                           ` Michał Górny
2015-04-06 21:37                         ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-04-06 22:05                           ` Michał Górny
2015-04-06 22:25                             ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-04-06 22:28                           ` William Hubbs
2015-04-07  0:02                           ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-06  9:28 ` [gentoo-project] " Michał Górny
2015-04-11  7:13   ` Ben de Groot
2015-04-11  9:04     ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-04-11 11:58       ` Rich Freeman [this message]

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