Re: [gentoo-project] Metastructure: reorganization

[Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>]

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:46 AM, Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> wrote:
> The key question is if it is reasonable to organise things as a common
> project. This only makes sense if devs of the (to be) subprojects are
> working together to some degree.

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> Also the council has no power to decree a new project structure.
> GLEP 39 says that projects organise themselves, so we cannot force any
> project to convert itself from a TLP to a subproject. This would also
> mean that some of the language projects (like Common Lisp and Scheme)
> would be downgraded to third level.

I'd worry more about what makes sense for Gentoo, and less about who
is allowed to make it happen.  I'm not suggesting the Council should
overstep its authority/etc.  If something makes sense for Gentoo we
can lead the way to it happening regardless of what it takes
(decisions, dev-wide votes, whatever).  If something doesn't make
sense, then what it takes is moot.

I think the real barrier to reconciling foo-cleaner with bar-updater
is devs talking to each other and general interest levels.  If
somebody is really interested in taking a leadership role here they're
welcome to step up.  If something takes off we can support it with the
right meta-structure.  However, I'm not a big fan of
build-it-and-they-will-come.

>
> Just ask them what they see as their role, and if the umbrella project
> is functional.

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Would be interested in hearing from devs actually working on all of
these projects as to whether they think there is a benefit likely to
emerge/etc.

I'm completely supportive of this if the devs involved have interest
in making it happen/etc.

Also, thanks Andreas all the same for bringing up the topic.  I'm
interested in seeing where the discussion goes.

Rich