From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B32E9138334 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81714E08B0; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pl1-f176.google.com (mail-pl1-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47156E08AD; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pl1-f176.google.com with SMTP id 9so1235961ple.5; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 06:08:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lrLEs6HJnj5bXXHKm78rOtvzmefHHBWKEu9s7WHLkV8=; b=XqVUGtDBw6XAC4CDiPmlMxCnYqXnxRKp4vuB172lIc6j3h/h7ir3Iz8Q1G9hYzSelQ 6Cgst4j3g06XjS9whNUMpGkD7rhjBY0YL2j0BuPpzW/ugRrKaTLS7Y6fB3wDMOLKNivK 6u66oQGyVhu+y+msvSHGutrRJZPspUurAjI5JoYWwpCVZ4DlsAgSHvuuECn0DCsaENYn SSehov1dbWkYxNjnjIje9h3K6g7iZrRy227HliU5bbse0vD011JUPkre4h/ofFAtSgoh 8pHmFrMB2wiH29g6NhgJYbqRzV9dMCygLX3b0eNreXXRrjPZBOhz/b/ysWMDKrg67Ura GDsw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVfgvnKNf3m8E2Jd4xmJAwQAkxcjB56pW2x7twPkZVkkYzuBO0x SGdH4UDUtVtrWf2Qtwf4493+dA6rpcCQ5tzHm6nsCg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyn83v7eCyH12c2dNeMl2I8AUU9q5VjuNpBqRdv6+U6pPWDqr0SqD1Grvdig2UQeFeoCKzIOE1eSb7EVVtI3/A= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:8a94:: with SMTP id p20mr42131818plo.312.1562159305931; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 06:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <86784617.NvtdGxuBOO@pinacolada> <865f16d3896a75d4683a4d37a20250876a75e898.camel@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <865f16d3896a75d4683a4d37a20250876a75e898.camel@gentoo.org> From: Rich Freeman Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:08:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response! To: gentoo-project Cc: gentoo-nfp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 05506dab-4106-4fc9-a212-e30ed700e9e6 X-Archives-Hash: a023132eb075f1e07c220579ee8ff52c On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny w= rote: > > Are you aware if the fee is going to be the same if we > go for proper non-profit? Do you mean 501c3 by "proper non-profit?" Or some other tax-exempt status? I think most around here have abandoned all hope of ever running our own 501c3. A number don't even think we should try, and a 501c3 is hard enough to get approved if you have a professional board all towing the party line. If you get people making public statements like we ought to be a trade association (which is non-exempt) it would be even harder. However, I imagine most CPAs would charge more for a tax-exempt org as there is MUCH more scrutiny on their operations. I'd also argue that we would need to be spending more on compliance in general or consulting ad-hoc with professionals to not run afoul of the law. If you meant a non-profit that isn't tax-exempt then I don't see why their fees would be any different, but there really isn't any big tax benefit to Gentoo to having one status or another as far as I can tell. The IRS taxes non-profits the same as for-profit companies if they aren't tax-exempt. It is the exempt status that comes with all the rules and scrutiny. Usually in the US when people say "non-profit" they tend to mean a tax-exempt status like 501c3, but these are of course not the only sorts of non-profit companies. The US National Football League (the kind where you usually don't hit the ball with your foot) is non-profit, but definitely not tax-exempt, and I can only imagine what their revenues are like. --=20 Rich