From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0BBE138334 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 12:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C38EE0885; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 12:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pl1-f171.google.com (mail-pl1-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56793E0884 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 12:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pl1-f171.google.com with SMTP id 9so6502938ple.5 for ; Mon, 01 Jul 2019 05:07:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=cC+VpnnZsdwbgGi5ItIF/Tv74ABpsIdjtNNn7Mtgjq8=; b=I9D4C6V9gyLplvl0h0Xt26PNldoagJFKKJ2RR7CjVHVq8ExYI1CJi0tnohmJ4un9JZ RwM10YY5JYrrYeXlgIhjSI2Q2w7+0cXANY/bKtUQQnCr1Ol6J5BW4EpLpyqwQZEk6li5 PgUlqtXsfA0Rrw5dFQ6aN1A1nKOeaM250OhXWpEdJ+zS2ypgtPRmzv2jPqI+XFugm60z VmHXtt0YLxo/jNXO7tK2RrRPW5koQcRPPzZWPgWWrpQXNyQNW9vuQN5EMZI51SfwJft/ Ban5B9MBCPbpAiU7vKejSwGo3ndqwil9RYVAao0PAVdrKzwTxpi2F2JNNZ18a8WIADUS oVjg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUpJoM7GR5o5HyLqNKIlDJAtWTWFp5QkCLp4kcKFB/1Co1pW17f D1/eKl/0774L66HCHSj7t27nLyesc5n4ZzA35vlK6w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw6I8SKsqDhV1Sthm+D88igZb0DBXG4ZRzwj6UviNYpj7t8G+ExvOb7Jnctcr5yGTjAuMpvqX6B71kXkWxhGog= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:70c3:: with SMTP id l3mr28674102plt.248.1561982871969; Mon, 01 Jul 2019 05:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Rich Freeman Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 08:07:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation To: gentoo-project Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 922c7ea0-643b-475c-8817-149bb156cd54 X-Archives-Hash: 20463472ea7ba80cde489fe271cfd583 On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:26 AM Roy Bamford wrote: > > Nobody knows yet. Different umbrellas work differently. Different CPAs > charge differently and perform different scopes of work. > The Foundation will need to perform a value judgement based on > quotations not beliefs. > My understanding is that most of these will either take a percentage of donations for internal operations, or will accept donations separately to fund internal operations, or both. I suspect that the cost will be significantly less simply due to the standardization and volumes involved. Plus most of these are 501c3 so they don't have to pay taxes for most things, and of course US taxpayers can further deduct whatever they do contribute (though with the recent increase in the standard deduction this benefit is going to be much less universal than it was a few years ago). However, I think Gentoo really should think about ways to go a step further and minimize its reliance on owning stuff in the first place. It is nice that we have all these donated hosts and volunteers to maintain them, but as we depend on all this stuff we increase our exposure to harm when somebody threatens to take that stuff away. Distributed technologies like git greatly help to reduce these risks as it makes our data much more portable - it would be nice if at some point somebody came up with something similar for some of our other needs, starting with bugzilla (which is always the first thing that comes up anytime we talk about using a service like Github, and for good reason). -- Rich