From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RGcuE-0008Qe-N7 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:38:30 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3278E21C062; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB35621C03E for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bke11 with SMTP id 11so3139010bke.40 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:38:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=S3sVOoYXAdVazOOrIlXI66PGoheWKFhKVxwBQCHSodo=; b=UbRxDYqGIE/qE5tHxOqXb4AT7pv6a9lLkongYqJgPNTolSi1e9jgCi0dlmtEBK5Xrm MAMbu2SDQj2CvbJ512bST/Lc+hOO6JH2eYasthgrIxpsUybnMUdiHdxgIOgukg8W3cBS mXzl2gNOe49oRtWH9dwwal60CBmxDGPkdKkoU= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.143 with SMTP id x15mr6095515bkw.28.1319056682791; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.72.195 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:38:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201110192152.24768.reavertm@gmail.com> References: <1319027877.9205.75.camel@tablet> <201110192152.24768.reavertm@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:38:02 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cjbG2hlccRXQyJJlgYZR9l8D9rg Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] wiki: bad top-down localization approach From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 0c833ddc70131f517dd242eb31cd9fa3 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > Actually, I don't see the point in having Gentoo Wiki pages in other languages > but English at all. Why? Quality of those will vary greatly. > I think such localized versions should be permitted only if they are 'literal' > translation of English version and if we keep all language versions in sync, > but we cannot really ensure this. Well, it is certainly possible to do, but whether we want to do it is something else. If this is to be an "official" wiki then pages should have maintainers to keep an eye on them, much as packages do. That doesn't mean closing off public access - just have somebody keeping an eye on things. I'm fine with that even being a non-dev role, but it should be somebody who actually is active. If that model exists I see no reason we can't do it with other languages - just ensure all pages have a maintainer, and charge them with keeping the pages equivalent to the English page (within reason). You can always audit things and rely on complaints to determine how things are going. If a maintainer drops the ball you handle it the same way a s a package - maintainer-needed and pruning. I think we need to do most of this stuff even if we're English-only - I think the only difference with adding other languages is that it isn't as obvious to everybody if some page is full of obscenities or whatever... Rich