From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A496138A1A for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:19:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B892BE08E8; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-f180.google.com (mail-pd0-f180.google.com [209.85.192.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34D5EE07FC for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pdbnh10 with SMTP id nh10so30433269pdb.11 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 03:19:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=C3of0UgXVfTj1KMwZ50PWTiRj4fCN+bWcjX0axg0bT0=; b=RFuyRAOfnVvgQz93hAxClK+VmGitjKz9rCe7UNXgQ7fuSsJhN9m0OE/Q7vI9YZjRQh Etak491tHziNXGcAr9ZQ5NkVIagaIopdrgDInx5l8jAXIL2KaPmgbvz3BCWarFD8YmHE Uyvo0sJbwifxQhDmPCLfpRk5Jb59ocbfHN7Ihr4U03cmIk4nu2tCjbDCs/mPtvupyhZZ sIWkaoC+Dv2O96TrDAlWJqR721o1QFWQgwudpP8FY467a6QM6WZ3ar8WlMhWoKxKxCIk Zh3NQBzm67a4BBUtabvVyLNxoeJYx48f8Jk4PdV4K46Qa43jxGZ8pl78NXsjao5q7aDi P5zw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.70.34.177 with SMTP id a17mr38491800pdj.123.1424085544288; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 03:19:04 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.85.39 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 03:19:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54E16381.8020409@gentoo.org> References: <201502142148.30540.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <54E007A4.5050504@gentoo.org> <54E16381.8020409@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 06:19:04 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qTpwz-AgoQxuTiqpsbqdF-vv6x8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: bc2d98fa-db8f-4926-8240-cee79c1d1518 X-Archives-Hash: 3ef050f3588c9d1bd9c2cd16fa0439dd On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:26 PM, hasufell wrote: > > Scripts no one can read except the team (even after being asked to > publish them) is by definition propriety software. It was used to > develop and package emul-linux-x86-* packages until this very day. > > No one cared, at any time. I just find this a bit confusing, because of > the sudden bikeshed about github which IS already widely used in gentoo > (whether everyone likes it or not). I'm not sure how many people noticed - certainly nobody made a big complaint about it. Now that you bring it up I agree that this should be corrected, though at least in this case it is a bit of a moot point as those packages are largely obsolete now. An area that always bothered me was stage3 building, but I think our catalyst docs have improved. I don't know if following the wiki guide leads to a stage3 identical to our published one or not, but if not that would be an example of a similar situation that should be fixed. > > Git is distributed, so I do not see a single reason to SOLELY depend on > github. I'm not sure why people confuse this. If we don't, then ~95% of > this discussion becomes obsolete. > I don't think anybody is proposing that we SOLELY depend on github. We can always keep an eye on it lest that become the case. I'd much rather see something hosted on Gentoo infra using FOSS take this role. -- Rich