From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-05-14
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 13:35:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_=_T8npHu8B1wd1-MLhweMxmuxV-veMQP4fSoBgtvVbCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130501183021.2949cd49@googlemail.com>
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
<ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 01 May 2013 10:27:27 -0700
> Zac Medico <zmedico@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> > It's necessary, and the way to convince developers is to stop
>> > providing a nasty hack as a not-really-working alternative.
>>
>> As downstream packagers, do we or can we really expect to have that
>> much influence of upstream developers? If the big binary distros are
>> willing to package these things without complaints, then how likely
>> is it that upstream developers will change their ways?
>
> Big binary distros already deal with this problem...
Well, if you only support one version of every library and change them
all in lockstep a few times a year, then this becomes a complete
non-issue. However, if you're going to do that then a big part of the
value that Gentoo creates is lost.
Honestly, this seems a bit like hurting our users so that developers
feel sorry for them and jump through hoops. We might as well threaten
to kill kittens anytime the bug wrangler list goes over a certain
threshold, or a GLSA stays open too long.
Sure, I'd prefer a perfect world to a better world, but I'm not going
to get a perfect world, so I'd prefer a better world to the one I live
in today.
Rich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-01 17:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-27 16:59 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-05-14 Petteri Räty
2013-04-27 21:27 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 7:37 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-05-01 15:15 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-01 15:18 ` Zac Medico
2013-05-01 15:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-01 15:28 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 15:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-01 17:27 ` Zac Medico
2013-05-01 17:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-01 17:35 ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2013-05-01 17:45 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-01 16:35 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-01 15:39 ` Michał Górny
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