From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28676139082 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C1A521C0A9; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-x244.google.com (mail-qt0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AACB21C0A6 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-x244.google.com with SMTP id a29so15617646qtb.1 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:59:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=yDebuCwOXqgk1/8SOaGcGuKttYIC7egB/1UXM+vdO9A=; b=uugbwFCAg7BJp17B61Ie0+tuv2oH1YQatIorNjC+12DBjSGlJOHcy+bKMXq8PgDWTa 7Xyb/gA80ijDstKf3ox4x6Ra+CAdJvI18hw3eNEhIAkSORFo2+xe5anP24ApWbs5C5SR jxLI1cY+oH/AjRwVyeWszItOF401FAURT6LH+s5AM0Gct1ph0w0bksLoJR8oVKu4hP/D BduCBLrwZFCAdbijweTgtoeGUbAV4u/wWXsKJalu+EnKmcKGC/FrFzxBZXKi45S/0aSo eNAJG0OAusxIiLqQ925OksAhSWGsKvu0dvVwCnzY1+fM0DWNHo2AGw1GKsNx4A9buJXH u0pA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=yDebuCwOXqgk1/8SOaGcGuKttYIC7egB/1UXM+vdO9A=; b=rd+JwqFsqpAojk+TeNUq/rZuVnPEkqUtr9Hn7IV/WpJB6Xv6ItgTcRKOEiX0zHwnhR pgZY9B5cjNsVYBXhK/mhzP+0eoHQrWAr7gYD7BgQ2lKwI/ZS18kbrOz2L10HxbAj1iv9 KXj5GYHIN4RjTb5lIKsBzO6AJgBOjAaXxPqrYoEmBoHCFmdlZP+uUcgoF92XwsR5ukVZ wnUZimIY/PjNdhoX59BjiubCE3dWSgCSoHj9OPJ4N+2O5HyBkV4L5PM/hPhD8EOqUuCB Xdgk8H2WawHXUxCnGmadR7aHzIMyUJwsLwbSEjUw+oqop2KDHA9rbQ01ICPSI+rCCeg6 egCw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKgQTRRreDCoZoyY2DrACUVz1sJUsl/NPdnzdWuD/G6uD3brigWvNUspLuMtymOFclm0jtBfH7iyKs43A== X-Received: by 10.200.39.212 with SMTP id x20mr29236011qtx.109.1484589553083; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:59:13 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.16.132 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:59:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1604622.bZRWYHrp25@pinacolada> From: Rich Freeman Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:59:12 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bVST5cOzbPS2x2wNLuVXF0tpMVU Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Formally have Council oversee the Foundation 2.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 9f4f578f-d5d3-4461-a502-b688590407c8 X-Archives-Hash: 9d3d184685514a456748e5b4451e95af On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:35 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Monday, January 16, 2017 11:56:43 AM EST Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> And nobody really has a choice about whether they'll handle lawsuits. >> If you own property, then you better have a plan for handling >> lawsuits. I suspect that SPI has thought this through a bit more than >> we have historically. > > The SPI is not a legal management entity. You are confusing fiscal with legal. > Again, I think you're thinking I'm saying I'm not. I'm not saying that the Gentoo Foundation should retain the legal services of SPI. I'm saying that they should turn over their property to SPI and cease to exist. At that point we don't need legal services, because we legally don't exist. >> In any case, the point is that if Gentoo moves under SPI then there >> would be no "Gentoo" to sue. "Gentoo" would be a trademark of SPI. >> Any copyrights on our works that are held centrally would belong to >> SPI. Our money would be stored in SPI bank accounts. So, if you want >> our stuff, you have to sue SPI. > > Completely WRONG! > > "Project Independence > SPI does not own, govern or control the associated projects." > http://www.spi-inc.org/projects/relationship/ They wouldn't own the project. They would own our assets. They wouldn't control anything. -- Rich