Re: [gentoo-project] Fw: Your temporary 2 week suspension on interacting on the Gentoo Github page

[Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>]

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On wto, 2017-05-16 at 11:01 -0700, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>> This is one of those situations where talking about a problem becomes
>> a problem...
>
> No. Productive talk about a problem is not a problem. Productive talk
> can bring solutions.

Certainly.  But, nobody is offering solutions here.  They're just
pointing at problems, and often those problems have to do with
manpower, where simply pointing at them doesn't accomplish much.

>
> What is a problem is that neither ComRel nor Council wants to resolve
> this situation and they let it span for months all over the place. So
> I'm going to even support William's statement that changes are
> necessary.
>

++

There seems to be some interest in bringing back the proctors, which I
personally think is a good idea.  I wouldn't mind giving the devs some
kind of direct say in how we approach this stuff as it is fairly
controversial.  However, I think that right now the situation is just
frustrating everybody.

I think part of the reason that nobody wants to fix these issues is
because people also don't like dealing with the backlash.  Whoever
suggests that xyz should be booted or that list traffic be moderated
is going to be reviled by many.  So, everybody just ignores the issue.
It isn't like Comrel is getting paid...

-- 
Rich