From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF271381F3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:02:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9374E060D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:02:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f53.google.com (mail-vb0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2B4521C04C for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id fc21so8179749vbb.40 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:17:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XwbJPkMqawS06ywnhaiQiwEOgPYS6HuXPlwwJIjbmNQ=; b=Rt7ougONgCesTWeklKKFaMVD+5KvlYc8FC01/8hC5AVriegZj/9h+nn1UxrA0Fy96k HBEXbwdsxI9YndVEyyTWnadJkDlLvhMimiBGsqVLKL6xGOiKMp7aQExn0adRy5H6KU4i ZbMTYLHPpcOJefEaMzu4PwaFY2co6pSsDm8mfUgwjN4wlSbejfVcjQqHdU+dE8SOe0TQ 4zb/eSxSQnF5kbhXOygjDElXUsDIazXa4uUeI7DpDVksGhxKzmZV+umPVPC68YGegd6O XcGyd8Vm0Ur2nLCPf42ahzxdUMuY35Vyh8xjBztbd+cytQo+U8HT1BkWsQWV0PsFMq1w arzw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.231.8 with SMTP id jo8mr8325996vcb.40.1352841471061; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:17:51 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.206.149 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:17:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1352839340.28019.69.camel@localhost> References: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> <20121113075530.GF83592@gentoo.org> <1352837046.15613.57.camel@belkin4> <1352839340.28019.69.camel@localhost> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:17:51 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LbKGRzmCMXS9-8u-OdzFlWZt2vM Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 1fcb78f2-7732-45a2-96a4-18c6edeca530 X-Archives-Hash: 9b023453ac54ebf2834f81c6604c2270 On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon wrote: > On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 21:04 +0100, Pacho Ramos wrote: >> Also would be nice to know if the plans to fork >> udev are only to let it handle separate /usr partition or more changes >> (that could need more and more months) > > The perceived potential for this project to overrun does not exist. I > have committed, on personal title, to have this done for the next > meeting or to go away and admit defeat. > Please see the meeting logs if you do not believe me. My main reason for going along with this was that with a few blockers left, I think it is likely to be a few weeks before we're ready to start the migration window anyway. Work on the blockers can continue (openrc, genkernel, etc), and we can start working on news items as well. If that all goes smoothly perhaps there won't be as much pressure for the migration window to be a long one. Something that did come up was whether we can use profiles to manage the masks so that users can make the choice of when they move. We can very well deprecate old profiles and set timelines and such to ease things on maintainers, but this approach would let individuals control their destiny a bit more. It would also make things easier for earlier adopters - we could stabilize all the packages even but leave them masked on the non-migrated profile. The profile could also control shared library movement to /usr as discussed previously as well. Rich