From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF38A1382C5 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 15:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE510E090F; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 15:24:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ej1-f49.google.com (mail-ej1-f49.google.com [209.85.218.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B1B9E090A for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 15:24:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ej1-f49.google.com with SMTP id ga4so9734040ejb.11 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 08:24:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9fSnkCBcqzXmwTX82caOZfN4WpZaOb99xijkW5jnnfs=; b=k8f9WnGKN0DeBDMBe/cRXzLBledMIn3IgSMcEQwzWK+f3Wf22N63pPn6V4BusDBDkR S2E7hXYdVirI3CYMO0XmW+fzEbpmJ9xDkWyaBPwsRId+WtFAcO8KqycvAQUX7uY13ibL yzEsNLYNIEb09IOmYUKcEytVzs7PuZI0y3+M0B9kOqO5t7vrSBZoT3e5I4QkgErgRIwm 5go0DgDAanWq0gNSfOXjiiXl/yBa1/dSjCqx31/M1CTtW9azJh9Hu54iXI5RyCKy+YMC x4yGDjvdudtTpp2tUcpD3OADzMjMy0Y1gcJbkp0A8MaBAuEleUSzywCQGIhOGLUK6sHF 8O0g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533NSY5l0p+HqYOxhshE8VUcVnaSTm0ROOR5WP/d2M/ajNCmDLL3 iw5t9WUzLEMJ21bsA0BXA3Vb4M5sTvRYEuLc5luACMb3 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw3iW1vCizVxM/s9T0TBiY5nxbMQV70StnkNrJTiK9Ih4qhdLxbmyobJldQWXJjj0uar91wj9sWW4EHlyRM79E= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3889:: with SMTP id q9mr3264429ejd.318.1593185093874; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 08:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <299c8b0c8f2dc1852c30410f924ed71e9dea73db.camel@gentoo.org> <4734248.Qq0lBPeGtt@pinacolada> In-Reply-To: <4734248.Qq0lBPeGtt@pinacolada> From: Rich Freeman Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 11:24:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Should Council members be pillars of the community? To: gentoo-project Cc: Thomas Deutschmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 2de92802-7f34-45df-baf5-8ca65ba78603 X-Archives-Hash: fa34ab626c5f668a0faf73cb9c1d901e On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:57 AM Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > Tell us why you are the > > reporter of most ComRel bugs in last 3 years and are even subject of > > most bugs filed by others. > > Err... how did you arrive at that? > > I'm in council and not in comrel anymore, and I haven't seen any kind of > statistics (nor any bugs since my comrel access has been removed long ago). > Frankly, if statistics like this do exist they shouldn't be the subject of public discussion on lists. An anonymous histogram on #of complaints for any dev might be interesting. (ie 5 unnamed devs had 3 complaints, 1 dev had 14, etc). However, unless we shift to a model where comrel complaints are public we shouldn't have people divulging information about how many complaints (qualitatively or quantitatively) any particular dev has filed or been the subject of. Nobody should even know that somebody has been the subject of a complaint. Everybody already sees how most devs conduct themselves in public as it is, they can judge for themselves if they are concerned with this. If somebody has been a menace in private comrel should be dealing with that outside the court of public opinion. -- Rich