From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3906B138C48 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 00:02:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 216BCE095D; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 00:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f173.google.com (mail-ig0-f173.google.com [209.85.213.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9F35E094F for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 00:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iggg4 with SMTP id g4so2034756igg.0 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=l3cPTvwXSN9yAjIbq94rRjZ1V6bw90JGLVHqTzrXA88=; b=D3N/G7QuVU/ThbcsBbgCSVHvdO6E0eMicKf5x0fWlQuxj2eKzEStDhd0/gwyj+tRYA kuaeYpTSjOH+cXjXzkuJ3uG9+F4yiTeAgoY1sr2/vBWK1NfcNh5WmBRWzyZG3Z0k6549 1TKUY+czwHiq+kF/6tTuQkJbKUOrqmLQcWmYlro1IkTszCJ4vi5hlg+dPs0FN69JX3wU 2WTcW8oBAk6CXXB+zOToLxybZFgXXmZFrw0J34G3pLpWx3RVxMRXqMLQp3AN29HiPl6P VFzKfB9+KPVqa4Rpi8ODEqvo5RW3grGIxIS2o8OcdpZyK/axucl644kiqRfOb3tjgfqr pE1w== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.9.141 with SMTP id 13mr25812615ioj.71.1428364938998; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.48.198 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 17:02:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150407003704.208098b1575f1c862e0df625@gentoo.org> References: <20150402141428.GA31638@oregano.home.lan> <201504032214.01310.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20150404220205.GA415@linux1> <1428237147.22472.1.camel@gentoo.org> <20150405195044.GA2917@linux1> <20150406002706.4aff7e4dda27a25a5c106b50@gentoo.org> <20150406023841.46e7491f7c76925908446de5@gentoo.org> <20150406095922.19036ce2@pomiot.lan> <20150407003704.208098b1575f1c862e0df625@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 20:02:18 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: w6m4lg73kjs2AOtL9O8tHFpUT3I Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Council meeting 2015-04-14: call for agenda items From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: ed2687d3-bd1f-4fe8-a2ef-29929b076cd0 X-Archives-Hash: edd53b6d0b9af7a1e9a15bdbff84ba0e On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > I sad nowhere I'm going to do it. We are discussing opportunities > to fix current sore situation. Threatening people with bans just > for their thoughts reminds me of George Orwell's Thought Police... > ++ Seriously - we have a lot of lousy alternatives right now and if you want to find better ones, you can't punish people for offering suggestions, whether they turn out to be the best options or not. Besides, which would you rather have? People talking about their ideas on a list, or people feeling afraid to bring them up so they just quietly do them in the tree instead? -- Rich