From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ru8I5-00079h-01 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:02:25 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2631CE0970 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2012 20:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D436E072D for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2012 19:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bke11 with SMTP id 11so4711595bke.40 for ; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:16:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vLRho4VcFapO7zFaVXDe/X4cYchw+jeEqfKE2iX2SPs=; b=ULrFQ+NXDGpQaCafB7eTAVa4iyebTdR3817wrxVofMobU147NuzOmi3PWzNMoni1a2 aAgBbhhJWqBO71KwDPhl4VH2EaHRpk/IzKKJb+lKMtB4BHNfBY1ZWG3Uh/s8SN2ICjrq BUOp7UI3sKyDZPusirLKoCAxacPLNKn/p1+EU= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.151.11 with SMTP id a11mr7016746bkw.134.1328469360431; Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:16:00 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.53.138 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Feb 2012 11:16:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120205185613.GS71369@gentoo.org> References: <20120202085502.GO28136@gentoo.org> <20120205185613.GS71369@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 14:16:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DNox5RXtGLBejnCJtfx664GupWw Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2012-02-14 From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: f75bbbd7-0b43-4af4-a28b-df931d501ef0 X-Archives-Hash: a87a466995ad82b90375d391f47140fd On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > I'd like to discuss the recently received email on "official permission > to promote Gentoo on Facebook as Gentoo Linux Poland group", and in > particular whether this is something for the Council, or for the > trustees instead. > > I recall something about the use of Gentoo, it's logo, etc., but can't > find it. =A0I would like to focus the discussion on the sub-question > raised in the email, if and how we (Council) can support initiatives to > promote Gentoo. Well, use of the Gentoo name and logo are definite Trustee issues (if anybody wants an exception to the policies the trustees have to grant it). However, I'm sure we're all interested in cooperating with the Council on any suggestions they have/etc. Right now there is a page regarding use of the Gentoo name and logo: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/name-logo.xml We're actually in the process of updating the policy - not so much to change it as to deal with a bunch of questions that keep coming up regarding copyright/trademark/etc so that we have a single comprehensive license - I'll be aiming to post a draft on the -project or -nfp lists in the next week or so for comment. So, speaking only for myself I think it is a good idea to support local Gentoo efforts around the world, provided that these efforts have some kind of association with and accountability to the project as a whole. Things like links on the g.o website and official recognition via use of the name/logo are easy things to provide. I'm sure the Foundation could also consider funding for specific activities if it made sense, although obviously we need to be careful here (we already fund the occasional banner/DVDs/etc for conferences). The existing name/logo policy already has provisions for community initiatives that do not require any special permission from the Trustees. There are some requirements like disclaimers/etc that a site is not official for them to make use of them. For a site to be considered official it would probably make sense to have some kind of formal tie-in to the organization as a whole. That might just be an identified lead (perhaps staff, perhaps not), and maybe some kind of charter. To have official recognition a group would need to be aligned to the mission of Gentoo and would need to follow relevant laws/etc (handling of money, copyright, etc). Again, all the above are just my random initial thoughts. I'm certainly open to suggestions/proposals here, and I'm sure most trustees would feel basically the same. We're a community distro, so anything that strengthens the community is a plus as long as we stay on the up-and-up. Also, in general if anybody has questions as to whether a particular use of the Gentoo name/logo are acceptable they're always welcome to submit a question to trustees@, or on -nfp, or file a bug/etc. The Trustees can help those interested in promoting Gentoo stay compliant, or provide exceptions where required. Rich