From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD92F13877A for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 17:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06403E0971; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 17:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63DCCE0970 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 17:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hy10so9186995vcb.17 for ; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 10:02:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1kRZ8Br2ZSeBSepe4xjv5AOl4yrPoTt5Fwr1+oajhZw=; b=c85OokYIsl5RGphrwOff4ZpLLfvFV6+79UIu7EhL4QLAew6XnO9fCrfxjRq+WhOe6b Wzlm835xvfFOfew46YsBOHGV6AEsnUSM4SwrFIajapdfICIoHSSZW5pWEhQEl8TxkwH7 cvqkQg9Xtw4ZXpXqQdSWuv+ePPtkVRfbK2kRPL8YI60ESH6amsiC+7FI6i/BVmE8hbOg ZMDVkqpXI271L71OG7BWPsZc9cnVF/nwO7UTNSJO5N+KIqKyLA0QOR7fbVMFOzToXe6F NmWo8cIBppmHQxYIpReYeVpcjhf9A9OyHPBJE4XMCsBywb7SvaOwXb0OzI4f7VbeINER crIg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.42.135 with SMTP id ty7mr44969704vcb.14.1404234154569; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 10:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.72.19 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 10:02:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53B2E4CA.1080408@gentoo.org> References: <539BD2E2.7030803@gentoo.org> <1757239.UAu395ci7F@kailua> <53B2E4CA.1080408@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 13:02:34 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qKK2JuQITU7JE_9eRiNhFJNgOcg Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2014 / 2015 election From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBLLiBIw7x0dGVs?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: c12124c5-3fcd-4e15-9650-441130802bc6 X-Archives-Hash: c3a163ba1ef04f4cd2ed9ed7ea860a49 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 12:41 PM, hasufell wrote: > > From what I see you are on both council and comrel. I think that is a > conflict of interest. > The term "conflict of interest" gets thrown around rather loosely IMHO. A conflict of interest is when somebody stands to personally gain from a decision. If somebody on the council or comrel banned you from an IRC channel, and you brought this to comrel, then it would be a conflict of interest if the accused party voted on their own case. Anything short of this really isn't a true conflict IMHO. Many courts will hear appeals with a small number of judges with the possibility to appeal to a larger set of judges, and the original judges get to vote in both cases. That isn't a conflict of interest - just division of labor. When you appeal a Comrel case to the Council the purpose of the appeal is to decide what to do with the parties involved - it isn't a judgement on Comrel itself, though Comrel should be guided by the decision in any future actions it takes. Anybody dissatisfied with a Comrel decision can appeal to Council, which is a group of 7 people selected by the developer community to represent them. But, anyone is free to not vote for Comrel members. Rich