From: Raymond Jennings <shentino@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-nfp] Re: Notice of resignation of foundation membership
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 04:48:18 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGDaZ_qaKae6bZxNDckz_0i6h9Dx0524XN7_00i5JzUS5e_kuQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1544348661.1112.8.camel@gentoo.org>
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 1:44 AM Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 2018-12-08 at 15:33 -0800, Raymond Jennings wrote:
> > Well, apparently according to the bylaws, I need to give at least 30 days
> > notice per clause 4.8
> >
> > Additionally I never signed my email with GPG so it's probably not even
> > valid anyway.
> >
> > In the interim I've been encouraged to reconsider, so accordingly I'm
> > withdrawing my resignation, such as it is.
> >
> > Things need to change in Gentoo though. I've had unsolicited encouragement
> > from no less than 5 people in this matter and it reflects a serious
> > cultural problem inside Gentoo. Apparently I'm not the only person who has
> > been driven to exile by toxic behavior. I'm sure everyone remembers zlg's
> > resignation as a trustee motivated by similiar reasons.
> >
> > This is not healthy for Gentoo as a community, and ultimately as a distro.
> >
>
> It's funny that you mentioned Daniel Campbell because you're using
> the same technique as he did. You have some unresolved issues with me,
> so first you attack and insult me publicly. At the same time, you try
> to portrait yourself as the victim and dramatize into quitting Gentoo,
> in order to gain compassion and support for your attack on me. When
> that ultimately fails and you don't get the support you expected, you
> suddenly find excuses not to quit after all.
You are misconstruing the motives behind my actions. Since you're not
a mind reader you don't have the benefit of seeing what I'm thinking
first hand, but allow me to explain.
When I said "unsolicited", I meant it. I was not expecting people to
approach me and explain to me that I was not the only one who was
apparently victimized by toxic behavior from you.
My resignation was not intended to gain compassion. I welcome it, but
it was unsolicited. To be blunt, I was surprised.
The "excuses" you speak of are completely valid, but they were seen by
me because of the encouragement I got, and they have nothing to do
with me not getting support in an attack on you.
> I have always been professional towards you. I have never publicly
> exposed what you've been doing. You could at least try to be
> professional towards me as well.
I probably could use some education in how to actually be
professional. I suffer from autism and social skills often elude me.
I would however dispute that you have been professional towards me.
Your legal threat (which btw I've gotten evidence is unfounded) as
documented on bug 620010.
Comments 8 and 9 of bug 620010 made by you, and I quote, "His
Foundation membership is a sad joke against the hard-working Gentoo
community." and "Thank you for your professional consideration.
However, I should like to point out that the request for audit has
been based not on whether he is a developer (which is a obvious point)
but regarding his 'contributions'. P" both come off as pejorative and
insulting, for example the likely sarcasm quotes around
"contributions". Calling my membership a sad joke was, in my opinion,
completely out of line especially given that I have provided evidence
in that bug of my contributions (which to be fair were mostly outside
of direct commits to the portage tree). There's also the fact that
the bug in question directly concerned me and you neglected to add me
to the CC list. My opinion is that I should have found out about it
before I noticed it come up in a trustee meeting.
Even if the commentary was not public at the time it was still made in
front of others.
Furthermore, the reason you cited on the bugzilla regarding my removal
from pmaint cited inactivity, however, your commentary on IRC in gpm
"[22:56:39] <mgorny> Spyro: because having you around is much more
effort to everyone than benefit" contradicts that. Apart from the
apparent hostility on your part, I also find the contradiction
suggestive of dishonesty on your part on bugzilla.
For the above reasons I very much disagree that you have been nothing
but professional towards me.
To your credit, I do think you're a strong contributor on a technical
front, but your actions give me the impression that your attitude and
how you treat people is detrimental to gentoo. No less than 3 others
have concurred with this opinion.
> --
> Best regards,
> Michał Górny
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-12 21:52 [gentoo-project] Notice of resignation of foundation membership Raymond Jennings
2018-11-12 22:04 ` [gentoo-project] " Raymond Jennings
2018-12-08 23:33 ` Raymond Jennings
2018-12-09 9:44 ` [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-nfp] " Michał Górny
2018-12-28 12:48 ` Raymond Jennings [this message]
2018-12-28 12:58 ` Raymond Jennings
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