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From: Raymond Jennings <shentino@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Per-sender rate limiting our mailing lists
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:19:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGDaZ_pxBKCBKYzxhjWyBfS4-5s2ir6tzVzA090S7ACR1QzQiQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170411125707.4e614fae@katipo2.lan>

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Kent Fredric <kentnl@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:22:26 -0400
> "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> wrote:
>
>> It is sad when people cannot use means like Comrel or violations of
>> CoC to control things as they see fit. Then they seek other means to
>> limit, control, and filter people. That is hardly an open society, much
>> less accepting or tolerant.
>
> The best thing about a rate limit mechanism, is instead of having to single out and blacklist
> various egregious users who are an evident problem, and having to defend accusations of bias ....
>
> You get to target the behaviour in a way that applies to everyone equally.
>
> You can't claim somebody is getting special treatment that way.
>
> Or do you *want* special treatment?

My two cents:

We shouldn't treat everyone equally, but the basis of our
discrimination should be based on behavior, not identity.

A blind ratelimit would cause problems, since there are a number of
legitimate uses for rapid messages, of which kernel patches are one
such example.

What if the ratelimit was based on karma?  Some sort of feedback
mechanism where list readers could up/down-vote specific senders based
on quality?

My hunch is that such a mechanism would naturally weed out
unproductive discussion.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-11  4:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-10 23:05 [gentoo-project] Per-sender rate limiting our mailing lists Andreas K. Huettel
2017-04-10 23:14 ` M. J. Everitt
2017-04-10 23:27 ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 23:58 ` Robin H. Johnson
2017-04-11  0:22 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-11  0:29   ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-11  0:41     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-11  0:52       ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-11  0:52       ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-11  0:57   ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-11  4:19     ` Raymond Jennings [this message]
2017-04-11  5:01       ` Daniel Campbell
2017-04-11  5:08     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-11  4:53 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-04-11 11:45 ` Alexander Berntsen
2017-04-11 18:38 ` Roy Bamford
2017-04-11 19:09   ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-11 20:04     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-11 20:11       ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-11 20:21         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-14 15:02       ` Andrew Savchenko
2017-04-14 15:53         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-14 16:11           ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-14 16:36             ` William L. Thomson Jr.

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