From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93B0D138335 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 23:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC027E08D6; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 23:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ot1-x342.google.com (mail-ot1-x342.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::342]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BC7FE08CE; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 23:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ot1-x342.google.com with SMTP id 32so7160894ota.12; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 15:33:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=QIowGTifSED3UhPGLt8oRB3HPWlT9DEn0v4adbMsOJo=; b=sgCmFJBQa8rXcTinzjUNt+xImltG+lkAJGHfXIOKD0yB6xnEL/DASRPq8BQM8zyf/p YrlHXcGhWg4IJTk+4dGzCJ/p4UMJBpt0x7cvEcCqDuWemCUezBOrXN1yp+7W9o+sT1in CH5tOTB2NVTX1ofsC8qcEGPERPBgKsJruaOrKXvXp5dTypNZcTzUcK/S3hLQquQ7VmMX NMJcjw1brP8pKlopxLrn/UaVaWfZvTzECubk7ftBB/JAudhklqJheRj2rRGOxhIOx8tQ syDpFe1r1o2TItnG631bhln09U9DtspZ/s9RlG3WSe0MDneHqOG++UqiIv87oHHIS1iE Nqtg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=QIowGTifSED3UhPGLt8oRB3HPWlT9DEn0v4adbMsOJo=; b=pQMrbu7iMr+i9nFj9ZkCQwemu19VMQiwdEdoOPkmbDWhiZlbq/D0ljQY8ZdJaqLAiL nQJ8/i42SY3h2tGvINVy5+DpPMFCaHwOK4NY5cFPHJw0S5tq9+5PmNnfgdwEKqTrriRG nJJ/j7RRo2FkqkzvLPO5/2po0Q/PZU/cGfXPsaRven9p7nYPbLMDO42FovPLuNx3PeSi lARRwb48xHMfh1mDmdSJy/h++6asLPhDL30kxKvOqnXHdv4IKvRfrRyg6CGuWPVnVVbh Lej7epjUMeVOrLk1+0IlXhBbOSUOKWT+6OyITAQJRFs6VdYz1uwuMVDlXrysqXFXL9wS 9yAw== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWZ2355IycZRZt45y4BZFWRiNQCwttJTMyp/hbDIPZ8D4NMHGtgl 3/BwyHxXnqAJK7Y2lahI+PQeG+wX3Ho8sni9ZtXy7g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/XgQr/jWFDqod9FUXbeprvgRXLCbaM1DMAOc3iyGnvXCptV9PzLvFBbs1jJuUQRReuK+ePzRE8VPYiadU5rXpU= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:88d:: with SMTP id 13mr4640750otf.269.1544312033773; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 15:33:53 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Raymond Jennings Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 15:33:17 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: [gentoo-project] Re: Notice of resignation of foundation membership To: gentoo-nfp , gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000320d1f057c8b2aa6" X-Archives-Salt: 1d901b95-f9e8-4bc8-bb6b-3e95550400ac X-Archives-Hash: e01aeb1179cc8cb37ae5a548f77ed62b --000000000000320d1f057c8b2aa6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Well, apparently according to the bylaws, I need to give at least 30 days notice per clause 4.8 Additionally I never signed my email with GPG so it's probably not even valid anyway. In the interim I've been encouraged to reconsider, so accordingly I'm withdrawing my resignation, such as it is. Things need to change in Gentoo though. I've had unsolicited encouragement from no less than 5 people in this matter and it reflects a serious cultural problem inside Gentoo. Apparently I'm not the only person who has been driven to exile by toxic behavior. I'm sure everyone remembers zlg's resignation as a trustee motivated by similiar reasons. This is not healthy for Gentoo as a community, and ultimately as a distro. On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 1:52 PM Raymond Jennings wrote: > Thanks in large part to mgorny's initiative it has been brought to my > attention that I am not welcome in the gentoo community. > > He has done everything he can to obstruct me from contributing, > including attempting to have my foundation membership revoked (620010) > in a bug that he didn't even BOTHER to have me CC'ed on until I > stumbled on it while spectating on a trustee meeting,and unilaterally > dismissing me from the proxy maintainers project, officially for > inactivity but confessing on IRC that he just found me difficult to > work with. > > This is, to be blunt, bullshit. When a security bug came in against > bopm I was prompt in having it fixed (see bug 631882. Other than > that, apart from yielding skypeforlinux to someone who used scripts to > beat me to the punch, the other packages were simply dormant upstream > and rather than being inactive on those I was simply idling. > > I might have been difficult to work with, but if that was the real > reason I was "fired" it should have been documented on my maintainer > bug. The official reason as listed is not accurate. > > When I informed mgorny of my choice to resign, his words were as > follows (as of Nov 12, 2018, pacific time): > > [13:37:32] I'm resigning from the foundation and severing > all ties with gentoo. > [13:37:37] Congratulations, you got your wish. > [13:47:16] thanks, really appreciated > > Unfortunately, it appears that his opinion of my worth to Gentoo is > not isolated, and since my efforts are not welcome I've decided it's > in the mutual interest of myself and Gentoo for me to resign. > > Since I'm not welcome there's no point in me sticking around and > wasting my time. > > Foundation, please get your books in order, particularly with the back > taxes, so that you can get back the respect of the rest of the > community. I'm tired of people using the foundation's past paperwork > problems as an excuse to disregard and dismiss them. > --000000000000320d1f057c8b2aa6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, apparently according to the bylaws, I need to give a= t least 30 days notice per clause 4.8

Additionally I nev= er signed my email with GPG so it's probably not even valid anyway.

In the interim I've been encouraged to reconsider= , so accordingly I'm withdrawing my resignation, such as it is.

Things need to change in Gentoo though.=C2=A0 I've ha= d unsolicited encouragement from no less than 5 people in this matter and i= t reflects a serious cultural problem inside Gentoo.=C2=A0 Apparently I'= ;m not the only person who has been driven to exile by toxic behavior.=C2= =A0 I'm sure everyone remembers zlg's resignation as a trustee moti= vated by similiar reasons.

This is not healthy for= Gentoo as a community, and ultimately as a distro.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 1:52 PM Raymond= Jennings <shentino@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
Thank= s in large part to mgorny's initiative it has been brought to my
attention that I am not welcome in the gentoo community.

He has done everything he can to obstruct me from contributing,
including attempting to have my foundation membership revoked (620010)
in a bug that he didn't even BOTHER to have me CC'ed on until I
stumbled on it while spectating on a trustee meeting,and unilaterally
dismissing me from the proxy maintainers project, officially for
inactivity but confessing on IRC that he just found me difficult to
work with.

This is, to be blunt, bullshit.=C2=A0 When a security bug came in against bopm I was prompt in having it fixed (see bug 631882.=C2=A0 Other than
that, apart from yielding skypeforlinux to someone who used scripts to
beat me to the punch, the other packages were simply dormant upstream
and rather than being inactive on those I was simply idling.

I might have been difficult to work with, but if that was the real
reason I was "fired" it should have been documented on my maintai= ner
bug.=C2=A0 The official reason as listed is not accurate.

When I informed mgorny of my choice to resign, his words were as
follows (as of Nov 12, 2018, pacific time):

[13:37:32] <Shentino> I'm resigning from the foundation and sever= ing
all ties with gentoo.
[13:37:37] <Shentino> Congratulations, you got your wish.
[13:47:16] <mgorny> thanks, really appreciated

Unfortunately, it appears that his opinion of my worth to Gentoo is
not isolated, and since my efforts are not welcome I've decided it'= s
in the mutual interest of myself and Gentoo for me to resign.

Since I'm not welcome there's no point in me sticking around and wasting my time.

Foundation, please get your books in order, particularly with the back
taxes, so that you can get back the respect of the rest of the
community.=C2=A0 I'm tired of people using the foundation's past pa= perwork
problems as an excuse to disregard and dismiss them.
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