From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76001381F3 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7666E21C095 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f53.google.com (mail-oa0-f53.google.com [209.85.219.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCDD921C035 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:13:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j6so1395716oag.40 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:13:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Yueak4/uhY12CFBI1SyDy1UG0piLpAas33/4cxOM6mg=; b=iB2jN5fkZKPeNrMXSpUrWy1Dq923qvVq2RzI1jqId0iCOYna/4CRoby1O4H398ZEsO 4ZBwAXJQ5CirwbXumcnaQZGxQF0TU4r7nIW1a1l4Mx7sMPRGLNXGVbcdd5++8S8Tk4q2 6bSwJk+YhyOWOYCePeQMXbnGEBSoiYstjUlSubd7xOw8mNEwMbpi9ZLgZOR6gXhvQ1mE 599FDuURRU13rfBPEsLGtEsM+rjM16hMSBl5iCXmyPNRLKJ9YV+07t75M918HQ8YjvGb JyPgU1MhqDDtZnL5H5KeiyOdE5C9v7vu/T9SsKViLnoSlO/s3DQIy3ylsE0B/HOksabl Hdww== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.8.35 with SMTP id o3mr394085oea.2.1352970807097; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:13:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: markos.chandras@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.151.8 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:13:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20121114191529.GA18138@linux1> References: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> <20121114191529.GA18138@linux1> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:13:26 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pWwoLDEn5q96hWu98Qn0fk27Ekg Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization From: Markos Chandras To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: ff320dc0-048c-4d2a-af9a-69ef621fcb8d X-Archives-Hash: ce9daef571cc3ec81294e6439ce9cfcf On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:15 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:07:26PM +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: >> On 13 November 2012 10:40, Richard Yao wrote: >> >> > Dear Everyone, >> > >> > It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev >> > has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes >> > Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance >> > seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes >> > that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.' >> > >> > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505 >> > >> > After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus' >> > concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to >> > eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other >> > things. We will announce the project later this week. >> > >> >> >> I applaud this initiative. I would recommend you contact, and try to work >> together with, the existing fork of udev, which is available in layman's >> udev overlay. There is a corresponding thread on our forums. > > I already tried to open a dialog with these guys; they seem pretty > hostile; another "our way or the highway" approach seemed to be going on > there [1]. > > William > > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/437570 Who isn't in the OSS world? :) However, they seem to have a valid design and a goal (similar to ours) so why not try to work things out? -- Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2