From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE5E1381F3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2593521C024 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B603E05FA for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id ta14so4674456obb.40 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:07:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AkOFjruGigTDdRvAqKkESjgDbZURoPfQ6vAdYcmIuw4=; b=aSgrL9+dmbxkmKyNaEndJyrNou8dRBfg01vNaFN5FC+1Tr48Aqx2UYAr/S97b4hfGx EhkcSUnGTNFwEUW/gxNU9aDHaNwzSlA3zb0NzTOxIiKAR9l/f1O7mnui/obdQFqJGpCo CI2ZXfRBp7r1gn8nMk0dr68vZ6UO9llNETor9vJVHXGLFo6h9sY0ltkLYAXbZT6ipNrW Yp5W1BC8s3LAAwtKqfQkmC8UcWU300ACRIadsgkNyBRv150hqPyehgYCKyUyDGYYFlIx opjszLD9JHgpcZ/VMzVYkbmgI1iSfs3R/8WPDsqRe9AhOaSRu7YlqBcDT2FS9SIvqPOo zfig== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.14.6 with SMTP id l6mr17028970oec.87.1352808466643; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:07:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: markos.chandras@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.151.8 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:07:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50A22E6D.4070709@gentoo.org> References: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> <50A22E6D.4070709@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:07:46 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XD7YYo5lfjYHSUnojtNHxsxYCaY Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization From: Markos Chandras To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: d1a7d1ec-ccd3-496f-a773-0b75dcce629c X-Archives-Hash: 74cdc749f7680a5031f412247721066f On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 11/13/2012 04:31 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Richard Yao wrote: >>> >>> Dear Everyone, >>> >>> It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev >>> has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes >>> Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance >>> seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes >>> that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.' >>> >>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505 >>> >>> After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus' >>> concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to >>> eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other >>> things. We will announce the project later this week. >>> >>> I understand that the council is scheduled to vote on a topic related to >>> udev stabilization. Would it be possible to delay the vote for another >>> month so that we have time to get organized? >>> >>> Yours truly, >>> Richard Yao >>> >> Have you tried contacting other distros? They may face the same >> problems with us and they might be interested >> in helping us out. >> > > We already thought of that. Does anyone know someone at debian? > > -- > Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. > Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] > E-Mail : blueness@gentoo.org > GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 > GnuPG ID : D0455535 > > Not me, but I guess this needs to be posted on a mailing list instead of contacting a single person or team. -- Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2