From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADBF1381F3 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9A25E09BA; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f52.google.com (mail-wg0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23650E0848 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id b12so390962wgh.31 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 04:29:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=F1ubeWxn6EkXGtPJU25qWA2O2O55duZ42d/Y03+fQOo=; b=KlzaC7Dl8vcVzaz/uHedeZxvDzAr0/8HwyRLxzqrkehm3WKvFrHkEnP7WzYB8h16f1 lxDiorA1HavtGjKpIk9R9WFOBvcuG1xoin0OnStxZ/j8wP7ErmsiaFMRM5iDlBpMWV5u p+MUaDhAtDIGJkdNhUWnk0u/dGZ1kQnYPzllXXJ3543ndfoLTUdWhBFHry9uxXKkAxKS IUlhjUkPiEW5J2R5vf3FRcqjvLUKtTPG4O/8vQ++rdJuxSmdUuSviKDlng8GMzDxQwW4 BzRC1p7Ay5B7YgSuwLFR0C3PXQN0Ia6eURvTcbFjCPtjyhhJ5tyyJW7mFVo0G0F7qIU6 sHtQ== X-Received: by 10.181.13.112 with SMTP id ex16mr4133215wid.28.1371036597774; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 04:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markos.chandras@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.136.115 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 04:29:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Markos Chandras Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 12:29:17 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jvfCptjbh1Vm8ft2SOjfCX9CB_o Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council: Policy for Systemd units To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 6c424625-4232-4769-bac0-8e24aa5e96d5 X-Archives-Hash: cf91aeafed96f8060b60201c212740f0 On 12 June 2013 12:24, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> What worries me is that we've reached the point where we need the >> Council to define a policy for adding simple text file to packages. >> If maintainers can't work things out then a policy can't fix that. > > I do agree that ideally this is often a personal issue. And yet, the > issue still exists. If a dev wants to add a file to a package and the > maintainer refuses the only way for the dev to get that file in is to > just add themselves as a maintainer, add the file, and send bugmail to > /dev/null other than stuff related to the one file they want to > maintain. If the first maintainer walks away in a fit then the only > remaining maintainer ends up leaving as well since the only reason > they were there was to override the desires of the first. > > It doesn't help when people basically threaten to quit over systemd units. > > Rich > Unfortunately we can't please everyone. This is a FOSS project meaning you don't get to always do what you want. You have to be a team player, and you have to think of that users want even though this is something that you never will use yourself. I regret to say that but if people threaten to leave over such minor things, they might as well quit instead of adding more and more rules. Sometimes it sounds like a "blackmail" to me. "Either do that or I will quit". A policy will never fix such behaviors. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang