From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7B44139085 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 03:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8D8323420A; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 03:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vk0-x22f.google.com (mail-vk0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 813AC2341FF for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 03:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id t8so55996838vke.3 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 19:53:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mtu-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=QEPbZNnobAZHd1qWvBDsIqCmmHtie6Ccz1mkScidkX0=; b=dMyYwkjuEhkImgceBv6xDxAI+yZUq5riKiSXSQE0Hj6vsfQzP0LjbHn0LG7a0BtgJ7 XJK82nxTzbmteQnOc7DM8POzG6xJj7YGWxLjHo4lhMxSFZcPgzIHNQdTJhaSnEpA7jgL t/3JPcuv625+U5kEI2AVgKyu5hAypBLCNhXQgllHxobcGW7QqPkURRcbta2E2SIZ4ari 6X9o/Vtp/u8n5yFyg/5RKf9SZh618FDNO9YxXQQJZVPEAvlizIEZqzRCXvUeZGmDEVcw fJcdz5nfPMNBcl9EO8dPpOmh1z6W2GZ8E68XtFwoYX7e8hnm/R3ELmA+shBpCtXX5u+M mXDA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=QEPbZNnobAZHd1qWvBDsIqCmmHtie6Ccz1mkScidkX0=; b=lVLKHssIyWzh9NaNgXGXrBEg13LnhiqUCShk9qX2roqnxKC8U6eMQXVJjnNrGEYQtz cdmMXCRhpqDVTY3GaVGy2gTzjSJZ7Dm/bEiieDQSZbtqBhBHUJ+eGZ411wV9Uila0MK7 ydkpr21J7ObiyoiWdtMk16fILAUFQZy4U7gDe8/7LLaIn+uE0yxjVNd4gnKMn6MnJuhN iZckTxcZIYHurgLNfuaA3V8c9KtXdBvyQyIltHvAJhfOpeSIXQYETlz4gmYRK/hH9egl TBCmjdUvAUXjIau/1TaGZaOCTanZs+MhuJ6biWPWsnEKMo12rCfh4zDV2gBHxyF8EfEb QyCA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJthTtvC4O3Ub4ICu0L1L53DjyeD2DBljlvq6MDWzGIP0LHVNTnjGuUdJRVvQR6C/qYBD9QW22TVIZUdnMO X-Received: by 10.31.252.77 with SMTP id a74mr13175102vki.46.1484452434219; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 19:53:54 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.159.52.146 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 19:53:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <45576d15-912e-492e-44a5-b7a3e2fb98f6@gentoo.org> References: <45576d15-912e-492e-44a5-b7a3e2fb98f6@gentoo.org> From: Doug Freed Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 22:53:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Clarify language of GLEP 39 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 9af0fdb0-a2d0-4ab4-8f7f-88495c9863ce X-Archives-Hash: 85a6641152378f3a845ab8a4b727cd1e On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Gokturk Yuksek wrote: > Doug Freed: >> GLEP 39 currently states that "[A project] may have one or many leads" >> (Specification section, first list, last item). I believe (and a few >> others agree) that this language is ambiguous, Some projects have >> interpreted this language to mean that a project may have no lead, >> while others believe the language is to be interpreted as meaning that >> projects must have at least one lead. Therefore, I request that the >> Council clarify the language of GLEP 39 to remove this ambiguity. I > > The council has already provided a clarification[0]: > > """ > The wording of GLEP 39 was found to be unclear if not confusing (it > states that a project "may have one or many leads", and that their > selection "must occur at least once every 12 months"). > > After discussion the following points were agreed upon: > * The Gentoo Wiki project page template should be enhanced to show the > last lead election date for each project. > * The council sends an e-mail to the gentoo-project mailing list asking > projects to consider electing a lead and confirming her/him regularly. > """ > > [0] https://projects.gentoo.org/council/meeting-logs/20150913-summary.txt > > As rich0 points out, there was no vote on the subject of the language clarification. In the raw log of that meeting, a few council members noted the ambiguity themselves, and that it should probably be resolved, but that was never done. Therefore, I'm specifically asking the council to remove the ambiguity in the language and pick one clear meaning. The actual actions taken in that meeting are only tangentially related to that. -Doug dwfreed