Re: [gentoo-project] changing the default of ACCEPT_LICENSE in portage

[Jeff Horelick <jdhore@gentoo.org>]

On 31 July 2013 11:18, Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:50 AM, hasufell <hasufell@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> On 07/31/2013 01:46 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>>>
>>> We're not Debian, and that is a good thing™.
>>>
>>
>> You miss the point. This thread is not about banning ebuilds which let
>> you install unfree software.
>>
>
> You're thinking of gNewSense, or one of the 47 distros on the FSF
> webpage that nobody has heard about.  :)
>
> I won't throw in my own two sense.  Personally, I'm on the fence here.
>  I think this is a matter of values and largely boils down to ESR vs
> RMS to some extent.  I would say that those who want to make a change
> probably have the burden of justifying the change.  You don't need to
> explain your rationale - you've already done a great job with that.  I
> think the bigger hurdle is whether the community buys in, though this
> will only impact new users.
>
> If there were some easy way to take a poll it might be interesting to
> see the results.  Dare I suggest a forum post?
>
> To be constructive, I think I'll try building a desktop in a VM and
> just see what the day-to-day impact of your proposal actually is.
> Nvidia drivers really only come to mind as the biggest stumbling block
> for most - the days of proprietary codecs and such are mostly behind
> us I think.  Those who oppose the change might point out specific
> "killer apps" that this gets in the way of.
>
> Rich
>

I think the biggest hurdle for most users will not be nVidia drivers
or anything like that, but firmware. Be it for audio cards, ethernet
cards, wifi cards or whatnot. Not to mention, the kernel, with -deblob
is under the freedist license which is not in the @FREE group.