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From: Matt Turner <mattst88@gentoo.org>
To: Gentoo project list <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 11:19:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEdQ38Gs3YvdFp1SCZAF++4=mCXGrBApnrHpmL6W1-twntu6Ag@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54E4DE30.2010205@gentoo.org>

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:47 AM, hasufell <hasufell@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Matt Turner:
>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:56 AM, hasufell <hasufell@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>> Dean Stephens:
>>>> On 02/15/15 22:26, hasufell wrote:
>>>>> Scripts no one can read except the team (even after being asked to
>>>>> publish them) is by definition propriety software. It was used to
>>>>> develop and package emul-linux-x86-* packages until this very day.
>>>>>
>>>> Your prose might benefit from labeling when you are using hyperbole,
>>>> otherwise when you make factually inaccurate claims it might seem as
>>>> though you actually believe them.
>>>>
>>>> In case that was unclear: while those scripts might not be formally
>>>> published, they have been made available to people who are not on the
>>>> team. Unless, that is, you define "the team" as anyone who has seen the
>>>> scripts; in which case you would be trivially correct by definition.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you saying you only share the code with your buddies? In that case,
>>> it is against our social contract as well.
>>
>> Yes, fine, it is. I don't think you're making an interesting point.
>>
>
> My point is that the team violated the social contract.

You don't get it. What's done is done. Suggesting that they simply
release everything as is this right this very second is irresponsible.

>>> Not only that, it is even a serious security problem since the developer
>>> community doesn't know how these things are packaged and neither do the
>>> users.
>>
>> There's a serious security problem if they were to release the scripts
>> (passwords and all) right this second.
>>
>
> This statement makes me wonder if you really understand opensource (or
> even free software).
>

If I didn't think there was a good chance you were running some of my
free software right now I'd probably be insulted.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-18 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-14 20:48 [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract Andreas K. Huettel
2015-02-14 20:55 ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-14 21:09   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-02-14 21:23     ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-02-14 21:25 ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-14 21:37 ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-14 21:42   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-02-14 21:56     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-14 22:08       ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-02-14 22:13         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-14 22:23           ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-02-14 22:31             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-14 22:35               ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-14 22:40                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-14 23:10                   ` Daniel Campbell
2015-02-14 23:15                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 13:03                       ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15 17:30                         ` NP Hardass
2015-02-15 17:43                           ` Alexey Lapitsky
2015-02-15 19:24                             ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17  9:07                             ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-02-14 23:13                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-14 23:19                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 13:02                       ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-14 23:36                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-15 12:55                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15  5:54                 ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15 12:45                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15  2:23   ` Mart Raudsepp
2015-02-15  2:57     ` Ben de Groot
2015-02-15 10:09       ` Markos Chandras
2015-02-15 13:17       ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2015-02-15  9:55     ` Alexey Lapitsky
2015-02-15 12:39       ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15 13:50         ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15 15:05           ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15 15:21             ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15 17:01             ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-15 15:27         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 13:03     ` Patrick Lauer
2015-02-15  2:15 ` Matthew Thode
2015-02-15  6:00   ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15  6:20     ` Matthew Thode
2015-02-15 12:29     ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15  2:42 ` hasufell
2015-02-15  4:12   ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-15 12:23     ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-16  3:26     ` hasufell
2015-02-16 11:19       ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17  6:37         ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2015-02-17 11:55           ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17 14:01             ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2015-02-18  4:14       ` Dean Stephens
2015-02-18 17:56         ` hasufell
2015-02-18 18:05           ` Matt Turner
2015-02-18 18:47             ` hasufell
2015-02-18 19:19               ` Matt Turner [this message]
2015-02-18 22:09                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-20 21:05                   ` hasufell
2015-02-21  0:19                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-20  4:49               ` Dean Stephens
2015-02-15  6:04 ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15 16:17   ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-15 17:42     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 18:39       ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-15 19:08         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 19:23           ` Seemant Kulleen
2015-02-16 13:43             ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-16 22:14               ` Michael Jones
2015-02-17  6:52                 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2015-02-17 14:18                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-18  2:19                     ` hasufell
2015-02-16 13:28           ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-15 23:24       ` Patrick Lauer
2015-02-16  0:06         ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17  6:48           ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2015-02-17  9:01   ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-02-17 12:10     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-18  3:47       ` [gentoo-project] Infra Kickstarter? Robin H. Johnson
2015-02-18 13:30         ` Pavlos Ratis
2015-02-19  0:31         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-02-19 12:16         ` vivo75
2015-02-26  8:38         ` Patrick Lauer
2015-02-15 11:06 ` [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract Amadeusz Żołnowski
2015-02-15 12:18   ` Andrew Savchenko

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