From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26AD6138350 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0328DE0928; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (mail.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB386E091F for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io1-f41.google.com (mail-io1-f41.google.com [209.85.166.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mattst88) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F7FD34EC6A for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-f41.google.com with SMTP id i11so6118394ioi.12 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 08:43:19 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX7PM/QjwMJPzPwBmJa03c9N2XgrySnOwCXmWKd9o9+UNi324Q7 oQ5GLIuY3HKukCLMaUVyjpy0D8wXLIxT2n1Pr1g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxXwqqSAXoq90XXAunb6MrmzP9x07DKrtRBMDobimrXllnBoxKyzELbnDN+9XJa7sW4CCir17fKuZv0natwZ34= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:db44:: with SMTP id r4mr12563663iop.110.1581957797631; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 08:43:17 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200217161812.GA5969@linux1.home> In-Reply-To: <20200217161812.GA5969@linux1.home> From: Matt Turner Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 08:43:06 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: [gentoo-project] Re: rfc: comrel changes To: Gentoo project list Cc: comrel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: f50f1c7e-8aa5-4b17-a1cb-0b0d44ffae9b X-Archives-Hash: 4749ba30d8849f1f741f46301f28aade On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 8:18 AM William Hubbs wrote: > > All, > > I realize that comrel is a thankless job, but it is an important one > that helps preserve the health of the community. > > To facilitate this, I think we need to have some changes in the way comrel > operates, so I would like to propose them here to see what other folks think. > > Since comrel is a special TLP like QA, I think the comrel lead, like > the qa lead, should be confirmed by the council. > > When an issue is filed with comrel, the issue should be addressed > within a reasonable time frame. As someone who has filed issues, I have > seen them sit for months with no action taken. > With all respect to comrel, this is unacceptable. You have a published > policy for how you will process issues, so follow it. If you don't, it > is very upsetting for users/developers who reach out to you for > assistance, weakens your credibility, and by extension negatively affects the > reputation of the entire Gentoo community. > > To promote more transparency with comrel, I would like to > require the comrel lead to send a report to the gentoo-project list monthly > containing these statistics for the previous month: > > - number of bugs received > - number of bugs pending (this is for bugs that are currently in process) > - number of bugs resolved by actions (such as talking to > developers or disciplinary action) > - number of bugs closed without action > > - number of mediation requests received > - number of mediation requests resolved > - number of mediation requests escalated to bugs > - number of mediation requests dismissed without action > > The comrel lead should be replaced if this report is not sent for three > consecutive months. > > What do others think? I think this is all very reasonable. I've both been in the position of having (multiple) reports to ComRel ignored and also on the inside of ComRel and seen reports languish. I hope monthly reports can act as a forcing function for ComRel to be more attentive.