From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9128A138334 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 16:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FD29E0B14; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 16:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 407D0E0B13 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 16:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it1-f181.google.com (mail-it1-f181.google.com [209.85.166.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mattst88) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF3D9335D65 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 16:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it1-f181.google.com with SMTP id b5so5235632iti.2 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 08:53:29 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukcSRzELbVrcnT6JBjnvZaW92R43Kk92wbyWXP11RXA0piDC02sG +loi2lLwe2QfBR8s1h4zoWfZpzdspaUv2x6OVWM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7tUicH6f4MgwHBIgAQQmbtTD37VMPRP48IOWAPj5AWQYV+LD0zIgxm2919eIXpKRoVG2n1N84U1Dz8grdwjLA= X-Received: by 2002:a24:2d0b:: with SMTP id x11mr20488811itx.85.1548953607780; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 08:53:27 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Matt Turner Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 08:53:15 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] What should the default acceptable licenses be? To: Gentoo project list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 4274dc00-85da-4e26-a31d-cdb02b44be77 X-Archives-Hash: b0fb4b9f8707ef06a971482972f2033e On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 8:54 AM Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > > On 2019-01-28 23:27, Matt Turner wrote: > > It's very common to need firmware to use wired or wireless networking. > > I would not want to ship installation media without requisite > > firmware. > > I don't think that sys-kernel/linux-firmware would be affected. > > But if it would be affected, where's the problem? Just create > /etc/portage/package.license for that media. > > Again, the main motion is for users starting with a fresh stage3 image. > Gentoo is about choices. So the only thing which will actually change is > an additional prompt because we are raising awareness... I wasn't expressing an opinion on the issue of $topic. Just answering Rich's question about whether it's important to ship non-free firmware on the installation media. We can certainly continue shipping non-free firmware on the installation media regardless of what the default choice is within Gentoo.