Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-11-08

[Matt Turner <mattst88@gentoo.org>]

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> El mié, 26-10-2011 a las 19:15 +0200, Fabian Groffen escribió:
>> On 26-10-2011 19:11:24 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
>> > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:06:07 +0200
>> > Fabian Groffen <grobian@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > 3) one step towards preventing useless ChangeLog entries.
>> > >
>> > > Also this has been discussed and decided upon by the current and
>> > > previous Councils, so also that opinion is unlikely to suddenly
>> > > change.
>> >
>> > I meant the useless ChangeLog messages done by developers on purpose
>> > like 'ignore this'.
>>
>> Oh, you can just edit them, and "fix" the ChangeLog.
>>
>> I hope people will keep on looking for those, and contact the developer
>> in question to ask him/her to change his/her behaviour.
>>
>>
>
> Why don't we try to reach a consensus? Maybe we should be allowed to
> simply run echangelog (or whatever is used) to generate a message like:
>  26 Oct 2011; Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> -pangomm-2.26.3.ebuild
>
> And simply that
>
> Pros:
> - People refusing to add a message saying "Drop old" (or similar) could
> be happy with this, as no redundant information is required to be
> written in ChangeLog.
> - Users will still see that a package was removed, as it's indicated
> with "-" previous removed file.
>
> What do you think?
>
> From my point of view, if we don't try to reach a consensus, we will
> expend time on things to enforce a policy that we could probably expend
> on other tasks and, then, maybe all of us should try to stop being so
> strict and try to give in a bit (not sure if it's the way in English to
> say "ceder" :S)

I think that makes a lot of sense.

Matt