From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RKrxI-000497-KN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:31:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B5C721C039; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2607521C058 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com (mail-vw0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mattst88) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 82CB31B405D for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so1162170vws.40 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.68.79 with SMTP id u15mr4330504vdt.5.1320067853355; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.110.3 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:30:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EA7B69B.70904@gentoo.org> References: <1319027877.9205.75.camel@tablet> <20111019153118.5e6ea65a@odin.qasl.de> <4E9ED3EF.7030007@gentoo.org> <1319052846.9205.119.camel@tablet> <4EA7B69B.70904@gentoo.org> From: Matt Turner Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:30:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] wiki: bad top-down localization approach To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: a6760e1f-dd32-4970-a25e-ee0cfa05022b X-Archives-Hash: 06ca1f70d323bed383217075ecba5bf0 On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:28 AM, "Pawe=C5=82 Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 10/19/11 9:34 PM, Peter Volkov wrote: >> Last week my co-worker installed Gentoo based on "misleading and >> partially wrong" but still Russian only documents. He is practically >> unable to read English well but uses Ubuntu for many years and now I've >> forced him to use Gentoo (Yay! :) ) Also he programs php and yet there >> are lots of technical books in Russian. > > Why don't we have an official Russian translation of the Handbook then? > IMHO it's even more important than having Russian-only articles on > not-yet-existing official wiki. I think that's very good evidence in support of what Peter is saying. Evidently many Russians are perfectly capable of writing good technical documentation in Russian, but don't know English well enough to translate English documents into Russian, which is exactly why he's saying the English-first top-down approach wouldn't be good for Russian. Matt