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* [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
@ 2011-06-02 18:18 Roy Bamford
  2011-06-04 17:09 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
                   ` (6 more replies)
  0 siblings, 7 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Roy Bamford @ 2011-06-02 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev-announce, gentoo-project, elections

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Gentoo Community,

In a few hours from now, at Fri June 3rd 00:00:01 UTC nominations for 
the Gentoo council will open. Nominations will remain open for a period 
of two weeks, until Fri June 17th 00:00:01 UTC.

Nominations are open to anyone. Candidates and voters are limited to 
the roll call list
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml
 
Nominated candidates must accept nominations before the nomination 
period closes to progress into the final ballot. Self nomination (and 
acceptance) is permitted. 

Nominations, acceptances, manifestos and other hustings material must 
be posted to the projects list.

For the election officials.

-- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
gentoo-ops
forum-mods
trustees

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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-02 18:18 [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012 Roy Bamford
@ 2011-06-04 17:09 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
  2011-06-04 18:16   ` Andreas K. Huettel
                     ` (3 more replies)
  2011-06-04 18:06 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
                   ` (5 subsequent siblings)
  6 siblings, 4 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto @ 2011-06-04 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project; +Cc: elections

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On 02-06-2011 18:18, Roy Bamford wrote:
> Gentoo Community,
> 
> In a few hours from now, at Fri June 3rd 00:00:01 UTC nominations for 
> the Gentoo council will open. Nominations will remain open for a period 
> of two weeks, until Fri June 17th 00:00:01 UTC.
> 
> Nominations are open to anyone. Candidates and voters are limited to 
> the roll call list
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml

Hi.

I'd like to nominate all the other current council members. It was a
pleasure to work with all of you.

Alex Alexander - wired
Tomá? Chvátal - scarabeus
Brian Harring - ferringb
Patrick Lauer - patrick
Petteri Räty - betelgeuse
Tony Vroon - chainsaw

> Nominated candidates must accept nominations before the nomination 
> period closes to progress into the final ballot. Self nomination (and 
> acceptance) is permitted. 
> 
> Nominations, acceptances, manifestos and other hustings material must 
> be posted to the projects list.
> 
> For the election officials.
> 

- -- 
Regards,

Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-02 18:18 [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012 Roy Bamford
  2011-06-04 17:09 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
@ 2011-06-04 18:06 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
  2011-06-16  5:32   ` [gentoo-project] " Mart Raudsepp
  2011-06-06 10:43 ` [gentoo-project] " Markos Chandras
                   ` (4 subsequent siblings)
  6 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Nirbheek Chauhan @ 2011-06-04 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Roy Bamford; +Cc: gentoo-project, elections

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Gentoo Community,
>
> In a few hours from now, at Fri June 3rd 00:00:01 UTC nominations for
> the Gentoo council will open. Nominations will remain open for a period
> of two weeks, until Fri June 17th 00:00:01 UTC.
>
> Nominations are open to anyone. Candidates and voters are limited to
> the roll call list
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml
>

Hello!

Jorge already nominated most of the people I had in mind. In addition
to those, I'd like to nominate Mart Raudsepp (leio) as a candidate. :)

Cheers

-- 
~Nirbheek Chauhan

Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team



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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-04 17:09 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
@ 2011-06-04 18:16   ` Andreas K. Huettel
  2011-06-15 10:20     ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
  2011-06-15  8:25   ` Patrick Lauer
                     ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Andreas K. Huettel @ 2011-06-04 18:16 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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Am Samstag 04 Juni 2011, 19:09:59 schrieb Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto:
> I'd like to nominate all the other current council members. It was a
> pleasure to work with all of you.

In addition, I would like to nominate Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) 
as candidate.

Cheers,
Andreas

-- 

Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer 
dilfridge@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/


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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-02 18:18 [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012 Roy Bamford
  2011-06-04 17:09 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
  2011-06-04 18:06 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
@ 2011-06-06 10:43 ` Markos Chandras
  2011-06-13 13:56   ` Dane Smith
  2011-06-15 17:15   ` Theo Chatzimichos
  2011-06-06 10:43 ` Markos Chandras
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  6 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Markos Chandras @ 2011-06-06 10:43 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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On 02/06/2011 07:18 ??, Roy Bamford wrote:
> Gentoo Community,
> 
> In a few hours from now, at Fri June 3rd 00:00:01 UTC nominations for 
> the Gentoo council will open. Nominations will remain open for a period 
> of two weeks, until Fri June 17th 00:00:01 UTC.
> [..]

I would like to nominate the following people

1) flameeyes
2) ssuominen
3) c1pher
4) xarthisius
5) dilfridge
6) tampakrap

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-02 18:18 [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012 Roy Bamford
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-06-06 10:43 ` [gentoo-project] " Markos Chandras
@ 2011-06-06 10:43 ` Markos Chandras
  2011-06-11 19:14   ` Andreas K. Huettel
  2011-06-10 12:48 ` Donnie Berkholz
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  6 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Markos Chandras @ 2011-06-06 10:43 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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On 02/06/2011 07:18 ??, Roy Bamford wrote:


I would like to nominate the following people

1) flameeyes
2) ssuominen
3) c1pher
4) xarthisius
5) dilfridge
6) tampakrap

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-02 18:18 [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012 Roy Bamford
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-06-06 10:43 ` Markos Chandras
@ 2011-06-10 12:48 ` Donnie Berkholz
  2011-06-10 15:23   ` Mike Gilbert
                     ` (2 more replies)
  2011-06-10 23:37 ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
  2011-06-17  8:17 ` David Abbott
  6 siblings, 3 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Donnie Berkholz @ 2011-06-10 12:48 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Roy Bamford; +Cc: gentoo-project, elections

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On 19:18 Thu 02 Jun     , Roy Bamford wrote:
> Gentoo Community,
> 
> In a few hours from now, at Fri June 3rd 00:00:01 UTC nominations for 
> the Gentoo council will open. Nominations will remain open for a period 
> of two weeks, until Fri June 17th 00:00:01 UTC.
> 
> Nominations are open to anyone. Candidates and voters are limited to 
> the roll call list
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml
>  
> Nominated candidates must accept nominations before the nomination 
> period closes to progress into the final ballot. Self nomination (and 
> acceptance) is permitted. 

My kids are finally old enough that I have free time, so I'd also like 
to run for the council again.

I served on the council for two terms from 2007-2009. I'd welcome the 
opportunity to provide the perspective of someone who has a long history 
with Gentoo and a deep understanding of our philosophy and culture (I 
joined in 2003 — wow, that's 8 years!). I plan on sending more detail 
later, but my interests as a council member include:

- creating a great community,

- making progress now instead of waiting years for perfection,

- removing bureaucracy in favor of more agile development & meritocracy,

- promoting innovation from individual developers instead of expecting
  it to all come from the top, and

- getting rid of policies that were created for a single incident, 
  because they should only exist for patterns of repeated problems.

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.com

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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-10 12:48 ` Donnie Berkholz
@ 2011-06-10 15:23   ` Mike Gilbert
  2011-06-10 19:20     ` Donnie Berkholz
  2011-06-27  4:16   ` Donnie Berkholz
  2012-06-16 22:59   ` William Hubbs
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Mike Gilbert @ 2011-06-10 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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On 6/10/2011 8:48 AM, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> My kids are finally old enough that I have free time, so I'd also like 
> to run for the council again.
> 

> - getting rid of policies that were created for a single incident, 
>   because they should only exist for patterns of repeated problems.
> 

Can you elaborate on this? I cannot vote in the election, but I am
curious in any case.

Also, I would like to officially nominate dberkholz, in case nobody has
done so yet.

--
Mike Gilbert
Chromium Herd Tester


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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-10 15:23   ` Mike Gilbert
@ 2011-06-10 19:20     ` Donnie Berkholz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Donnie Berkholz @ 2011-06-10 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Mike Gilbert; +Cc: gentoo-project

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On 11:23 Fri 10 Jun     , Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On 6/10/2011 8:48 AM, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > My kids are finally old enough that I have free time, so I'd also like 
> > to run for the council again.
> 
> > - getting rid of policies that were created for a single incident, 
> >   because they should only exist for patterns of repeated problems.
> > 
> 
> Can you elaborate on this? I cannot vote in the election, but I am
> curious in any case.

A common problem in Gentoo is feeling like a one-time problem can't be 
fixed without making a big policy about it, why it can't be done, what 
will happen if it's done again, etc. If you've been around Gentoo for a 
while and start reading through our developer docs, you'll be able to 
connect a specific name and instance with pretty much every line that 
says something like "Don't do stupid thing X" and "Don't do ridiculous 
thing Y."

I think part of this is rooted in a fear, for lack of a better word, to 
take personal responsibility for an action; instead, people want a 
rulebook to point at and say "That's wrong" so the rulebook is the bad 
guy.

But rulebooks should only be for the common cases, the patterns, the 
problems that keep coming up over and over. One-time problems only 
deserve one-time solutions.

> Also, I would like to officially nominate dberkholz, in case nobody has
> done so yet.

Yay!

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.com

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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-02 18:18 [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012 Roy Bamford
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-06-10 12:48 ` Donnie Berkholz
@ 2011-06-10 23:37 ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
  2011-06-12 19:01   ` Ulrich Mueller
                     ` (3 more replies)
  2011-06-17  8:17 ` David Abbott
  6 siblings, 4 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Panagiotis Christopoulos @ 2011-06-10 23:37 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project; +Cc: elections

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On 19:18 Thu 02 Jun     , Roy Bamford wrote:
> Gentoo Community,
> 
> Nominations are open to anyone. Candidates and voters are limited to 
> the roll call list
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml

I would like to nominate:

1. Sebastien Fabbro (bicatali)
2. Jeremy Olexa     (darkside)
3. Fabian Groffen   (grobian)
4. Lars Wendler     (polynomial-c)
5. Peter Volkov     (pva)
6. Ulrich Müller    (ulm)
7. Mike Frysinger   (vapier)

-- 
Panagiotis Christopoulos ( pchrist )
    ( Gentoo Lisp Project )

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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-06 10:43 ` Markos Chandras
@ 2011-06-11 19:14   ` Andreas K. Huettel
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Andreas K. Huettel @ 2011-06-11 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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Am Montag 06 Juni 2011, 12:43:46 schrieb Markos Chandras:
> I would like to nominate the following people
> 
(...)
> 5) dilfridge

I accept the nomination, for the unlikely case that anyone would actually be 
interested in voting for me.

However, please consider this e-mail my entire election campaign. :)

Cheers, A

-- 

Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer 
dilfridge@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/


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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-10 23:37 ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
@ 2011-06-12 19:01   ` Ulrich Mueller
  2011-06-15  9:04   ` [gentoo-project] " Fabian Groffen
                     ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulrich Mueller @ 2011-06-12 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project; +Cc: elections, Panagiotis Christopoulos

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>>>>> On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote:

> I would like to nominate:

> 6. Ulrich Müller    (ulm)

Thank you for the nomination.
I accept.

Ulrich

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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-06 10:43 ` [gentoo-project] " Markos Chandras
@ 2011-06-13 13:56   ` Dane Smith
  2011-06-13 14:11     ` Samuli Suominen
  2011-06-15 17:15   ` Theo Chatzimichos
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dane Smith @ 2011-06-13 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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On 06/06/11 06:43, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 02/06/2011 07:18 ??, Roy Bamford wrote:
>> Gentoo Community,
> 
>> In a few hours from now, at Fri June 3rd 00:00:01 UTC nominations for 
>> the Gentoo council will open. Nominations will remain open for a period 
>> of two weeks, until Fri June 17th 00:00:01 UTC.
>> [..]
> 
> I would like to nominate the following people
> 
> 1) flameeyes
> 2) ssuominen
> 3) c1pher
> 4) xarthisius
> 5) dilfridge
> 6) tampakrap
> 

Markos,
Thanks for the nomination. I accept.

All,
I know I'm still somewhat new to be running for Council, but I do hope
you will give me at least a little consideration. I have been active
within the project for a year as of this month, and an active dev since
October. That gives me a somewhat unique blend of knowing the culture of
the project, knowing it's problems, and still being delusional enough
that I want to try to fix some of them. Since joining I have run into a
couple things that I would like to see resolved sooner rather than later.

I have had a strong interest in Crypto for a long time (over 10 years at
this point, and I'm only 23!), and one thing that I've noticed Gentoo is
lacking is any form of security whatsoever between us, and our user
base. Given that, I'd really like to see (at the very bare minimum) GLEP
58 become a reality within the next couple months. I'd also like to see
this extended from that point to full tree signing (however, given the
state of things, we stand to gain the most security by implementing GLEP
58, so that should really get done first). I personally plan on trying
to carry this forward (regardless of the Council elections). There will
be more on this topic posted to -dev when I get everything I want to say
coherent enough that I won't sound like a babbling idiot.

The next thing I would like to see addressed is some of the current
"team" problems. It is imperative for this project to have good working
QA and DevRel teams. We are honestly zilch of a project if we are
constantly breaking things / failing to even remotely work together.
However, as is very easily seen by the current situation that apparently
it is going to take "Council Appointments" for lead positions before
these teams will be able to operate correctly without people forever
questioning their right to do so. There were a number of proposals along
this line at [1].

Lastly, git. It needs to happen. It's no magic bullet, by I really would
love to have the whole repository on my own ruddy machine. Need I say more?

So, for those that want to tl;dr; this:
Summary:
1) GLEP 58-61.
2) Consider QA/DevRel "Team Lead Appointments" or something similar.
3) Git.

Thanks for your time! Feel free to question anything!

[1]
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_e1fd66dc60b2e361950f0c3521eb84ab.xml

Regards,
- -- 
Dane Smith (c1pher)
Gentoo Linux Developer -- QA / Crypto / Sunrise / x86
RSA Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x0C2E1531&op=index
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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-13 13:56   ` Dane Smith
@ 2011-06-13 14:11     ` Samuli Suominen
  2011-06-15 16:46       ` Kacper Kowalik
                         ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Samuli Suominen @ 2011-06-13 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

(Sorry for stealing this random e-mail in this thread but I'm late in
the party.)

> I would like to nominate the following people
> 2) ssuominen

Thanks but I'll reject.

I would be lying to the community by claiming I'd find enough time to
get involved in all the issues council has to deal with.

And I certainly don't want to be in the council just to correct one
mistake of the old council.

But I'll nominate:

1) vapier
2) mr_bones_
3) xarthisius
4) hwoarang
5) ulm
6) calchan



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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-04 17:09 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
  2011-06-04 18:16   ` Andreas K. Huettel
@ 2011-06-15  8:25   ` Patrick Lauer
  2011-06-16 20:59   ` Petteri Räty
  2011-06-23 19:39   ` Alex Alexander
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Patrick Lauer @ 2011-06-15  8:25 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto; +Cc: gentoo-project, elections

On 06/04/11 19:09, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I'd like to nominate all the other current council members. It was a
> pleasure to work with all of you.
> 
> Alex Alexander - wired
> Tomá? Chvátal - scarabeus
> Brian Harring - ferringb
> Patrick Lauer - patrick

Thank you for nominating me, and I accept.

Anything manifesto-like will have to wait a while until work stops
trying to kill me, but my opinions haven't changed much from the last
years :)




> Petteri Räty - betelgeuse
> Tony Vroon - chainsaw
> 
>> Nominated candidates must accept nominations before the nomination 
>> period closes to progress into the final ballot. Self nomination (and 
>> acceptance) is permitted. 
> 
>> Nominations, acceptances, manifestos and other hustings material must 
>> be posted to the projects list.
> 
>> For the election officials.
> 
> 

-- 
Patrick Lauer         http://service.gentooexperimental.org

Gentoo Council Member and Evangelist
Part of Gentoo Benchmarks, Forensics, PostgreSQL, KDE herds



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* [gentoo-project] Re: Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-10 23:37 ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
  2011-06-12 19:01   ` Ulrich Mueller
@ 2011-06-15  9:04   ` Fabian Groffen
  2011-06-16 20:45   ` [gentoo-project] " Sébastien Fabbro
  2011-06-17  5:14   ` Peter Volkov
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Fabian Groffen @ 2011-06-15  9:04 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

Hi Panagiotis,

On 11-06-2011 02:37:30 +0300, Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote:
> I would like to nominate:

> 3. Fabian Groffen   (grobian)

I thank you for your nomination.  By this email, I accept it.


-- 
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level



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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-04 18:16   ` Andreas K. Huettel
@ 2011-06-15 10:20     ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto @ 2011-06-15 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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On 04-06-2011 18:16, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Am Samstag 04 Juni 2011, 19:09:59 schrieb Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto:
>> I'd like to nominate all the other current council members. It was a
>> pleasure to work with all of you.
> 
> In addition, I would like to nominate Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) 
> as candidate.

Thank you Andreas. I accept the nomination.

> Cheers,
> Andreas
> 

- -- 
Regards,

Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-13 14:11     ` Samuli Suominen
@ 2011-06-15 16:46       ` Kacper Kowalik
  2011-06-16 19:49       ` Markos Chandras
  2011-06-17  5:31       ` Mike Frysinger
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Kacper Kowalik @ 2011-06-15 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project


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W dniu 13.06.2011 16:11, Samuli Suominen pisze:
> 3) xarthisius
Thanks, but I decline.
Cheers,
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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-06 10:43 ` [gentoo-project] " Markos Chandras
  2011-06-13 13:56   ` Dane Smith
@ 2011-06-15 17:15   ` Theo Chatzimichos
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Theo Chatzimichos @ 2011-06-15 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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On Monday 06 of June 2011 11:43:45 Markos Chandras wrote:
> 6) tampakrap

Thanks, but no thanks
-- 
Theo Chatzimichos | blog.tampakrap.gr
Gentoo KDE/Qt, Planet, Overlays

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* [gentoo-project] Re: Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-04 18:06 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
@ 2011-06-16  5:32   ` Mart Raudsepp
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Mart Raudsepp @ 2011-06-16  5:32 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

Nirbheek Chauhan <nirbheek <at> gentoo.org> writes:
> Jorge already nominated most of the people I had in mind. In addition
> to those, I'd like to nominate Mart Raudsepp (leio) as a candidate. :)

Thanks for the nomination. I accept.


Regards,
Mart Raudsepp





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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-13 14:11     ` Samuli Suominen
  2011-06-15 16:46       ` Kacper Kowalik
@ 2011-06-16 19:49       ` Markos Chandras
  2011-06-17  5:31       ` Mike Frysinger
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Markos Chandras @ 2011-06-16 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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On 13/06/2011 05:11 ??, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> (Sorry for stealing this random e-mail in this thread but I'm late in
> the party.)
> 
>> I would like to nominate the following people
>> 2) ssuominen
> 
> Thanks but I'll reject.
> [..]
> 4) hwoarang
> [..]

Thanks, I accept.
I caused too much noise lately just because I wanted to change a few
things. Thanks for giving me the chance to do it in a more official and
sane way.

Here is my manifesto

http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang/council201106-manifesto.xml

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-10 23:37 ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
  2011-06-12 19:01   ` Ulrich Mueller
  2011-06-15  9:04   ` [gentoo-project] " Fabian Groffen
@ 2011-06-16 20:45   ` Sébastien Fabbro
  2011-06-17  5:14   ` Peter Volkov
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Sébastien Fabbro @ 2011-06-16 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Panagiotis Christopoulos; +Cc: gentoo-project, elections

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Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote:
 
> I would like to nominate:
> 
> 1. Sebastien Fabbro (bicatali)


Thanks. I accept.

--
Sébastien


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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-04 17:09 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
  2011-06-04 18:16   ` Andreas K. Huettel
  2011-06-15  8:25   ` Patrick Lauer
@ 2011-06-16 20:59   ` Petteri Räty
  2011-06-23 19:39   ` Alex Alexander
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Petteri Räty @ 2011-06-16 20:59 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project; +Cc: elections

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On 04.06.2011 20:09, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> On 02-06-2011 18:18, Roy Bamford wrote:
>> Gentoo Community,
> 
>> In a few hours from now, at Fri June 3rd 00:00:01 UTC nominations for 
>> the Gentoo council will open. Nominations will remain open for a period 
>> of two weeks, until Fri June 17th 00:00:01 UTC.
> 
>> Nominations are open to anyone. Candidates and voters are limited to 
>> the roll call list
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I'd like to nominate all the other current council members. It was a
> pleasure to work with all of you.
> 
> Alex Alexander - wired
> Tomá? Chvátal - scarabeus
> Brian Harring - ferringb
> Patrick Lauer - patrick
> Petteri Räty - betelgeuse
> Tony Vroon - chainsaw

Thanks and I accept. I gave thought to if I should step down after all
these years but finally decided to run for a couple of reasons. I am
mentoring the council web application project in GSoC so it's probably
easier to put into production if I am part of the next Council too and
looking at the elections page there's 7 accepted candidates so by
accepting people get at least some say in the composition of the
council. Hopefully it's just lacking in updates but I didn't go through
the effort to see how much behind the page is.

Regards,
Petteri


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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-10 23:37 ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
                     ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-06-16 20:45   ` [gentoo-project] " Sébastien Fabbro
@ 2011-06-17  5:14   ` Peter Volkov
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Peter Volkov @ 2011-06-17  5:14 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

В Сбт, 11/06/2011 в 02:37 +0300, Panagiotis Christopoulos пишет:
> On 19:18 Thu 02 Jun     , Roy Bamford wrote:
> > Nominations are open to anyone. Candidates and voters are limited to 
> > the roll call list
> > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml
> 
> I would like to nominate:

> 5. Peter Volkov     (pva)

Thank you for nomination. This year I decline.

--
Peter.





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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-13 14:11     ` Samuli Suominen
  2011-06-15 16:46       ` Kacper Kowalik
  2011-06-16 19:49       ` Markos Chandras
@ 2011-06-17  5:31       ` Mike Frysinger
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Mike Frysinger @ 2011-06-17  5:31 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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On Monday, June 13, 2011 10:11:17 Samuli Suominen wrote:
> 1) vapier

sorry peeps, but i dont have enough free time to be able to do the job 
properly.  the last thing we want is people going afk for weeks (which i cant 
avoid atm).
-mike

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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-02 18:18 [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012 Roy Bamford
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-06-10 23:37 ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
@ 2011-06-17  8:17 ` David Abbott
  6 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: David Abbott @ 2011-06-17  8:17 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev-announce; +Cc: gentoo-project, elections

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Gentoo Community,
>
> In a few hours from now, at Fri June 3rd 00:00:01 UTC nominations for
> the Gentoo council will open. Nominations will remain open for a period
> of two weeks, until Fri June 17th 00:00:01 UTC.
>
> Nominations are open to anyone. Candidates and voters are limited to
> the roll call list
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml
>
> Nominated candidates must accept nominations before the nomination
> period closes to progress into the final ballot. Self nomination (and
> acceptance) is permitted.
>
> Nominations, acceptances, manifestos and other hustings material must
> be posted to the projects list.
>
> For the election officials.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Roy Bamford
> (Neddyseagoon) a member of
> gentoo-ops
> forum-mods
> trustees
>
The nominations are now closed.

-- 
David Abbott (dabbott)
Gentoo
http://dev.gentoo.org/~dabbott/



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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-04 17:09 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
                     ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-06-16 20:59   ` Petteri Räty
@ 2011-06-23 19:39   ` Alex Alexander
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Alex Alexander @ 2011-06-23 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:09:59PM +0000, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> I'd like to nominate all the other current council members. It was a
> pleasure to work with all of you.
> 
> Alex Alexander - wired

Thank you Jorge for nominating me.

The nomination period is over (and I didn't accept or decline in time, I
have been extremely busy with work) but I'd still like to provide a
reason on why I chose not to participate this year.

Truth is, I just don't have the time atm and I don't see that changing
any time soon.

So, instead of being in the council just for the meetings, I opted to
stay out this year. If I find any extra time, I have a few other things
I'd like to do in Gentoo anyway :)

-- 
Alex Alexander | wired
+ Gentoo Linux Developer
++ www.linuxized.com

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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-10 12:48 ` Donnie Berkholz
  2011-06-10 15:23   ` Mike Gilbert
@ 2011-06-27  4:16   ` Donnie Berkholz
  2012-06-16 22:59   ` William Hubbs
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From: Donnie Berkholz @ 2011-06-27  4:16 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Roy Bamford; +Cc: gentoo-project

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On 07:48 Fri 10 Jun     , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> I served on the council for two terms from 2007-2009. I'd welcome the 
> opportunity to provide the perspective of someone who has a long history 
> with Gentoo and a deep understanding of our philosophy and culture (I 
> joined in 2003 — wow, that's 8 years!). I plan on sending more detail 
> later, but my interests as a council member include:

As promised, here's more info on who I am, why I'm running, how I see 
the council, and how I see Gentoo.

For anyone newer, I'd like to first introduce myself and my history with 
Gentoo. Over the past 8 years, I've spent time doing pretty much 
everything in Gentoo, from maintaining ebuilds to writing documentation 
and leading teams and projects. I've been a recruiter in devrel, served 
as desktop manager (back when we had top-level project managers, before 
GLEP 39), and later chaired the council. I also started the clustering 
team, led X11 maintenance for about 5 years (when I designed the modular 
X eclass and wrote all 400+ new modular packages as we transitioned from 
the old XFree86), spent a term as a foundation trustee, and acted as 
project manager for our ever-controversial GUI installer.

One of my primary roles at the moment is running our participation in 
the Google Summer of Code, one of our major sources of both income and 
new developers. Since I took over 3 years ago, we've more than doubled 
the size of our program (we have 15 students this year!) and greatly 
increased the proportion of students who eventually become Gentoo devs 
to roughly 67%.

At this point, I'm convinced I can make the biggest difference to Gentoo 
in two ways: focusing on specific projects like the git transition and 
improved eclass testing rather than ebuild maintenance (which we have 
tons of people doing), and leading Gentoo to greatness as a council 
member, where I'm in the best position to accomplish that goal.

On my last two terms as a council member, I was extremely active in 
council-related issues both on mailing lists and at meetings, rather 
than just showing up at meetings to vote and then disappearing into the 
sunset. I strongly believe that through preparation and accountability, 
we can have a more productive council, but this requires a true 
commitment on the part of every member.

> - creating a great community,

I see this as an area where the council can set direction for all of 
Gentoo, both through the positive examples of its members and by taking 
a stand against anything we won't stand for in our community. The 
council should be providing guidance to devrel and userrel on what kinds 
of behaviors should be encouraged and what kinds shouldn't be tolerated.

Additionally, we should begin collecting metrics on our community so we 
know where we're going. Many other projects (and even distributions) do 
this already, to give them clues of when things are going wrong, what 
things are going right, etc.

> - making progress now instead of waiting years for perfection,

There's a lot of ongoing projects and GLEPs that have been dragging on 
for years because people want a "perfect" solution. One personal example 
is the git transition, where I've already made this mistake in spending 
quite a bit of time trying to get a perfect repository layout working 
when we could have just done a simple conversion of the whole tree and 
put it in one repo (the current plan, with some changes).

GLEP 55 is another one. There are some times when any decision is better 
than no decision.

> - removing bureaucracy in favor of more agile development & meritocracy,

We all know that GLEP 39 needs some changes. I think that most devs just 
want to Get Stuff Done without fighting with policies, waiting around 
forever for votes, not getting majorities without any clear direction, 
and so forth. I believe that our devs vote in the council because they 
want those people in charge and trust the council members to do what 
they think is right, including deciding on changes to GLEP 39 to improve 
how we run things.

I favor a switch to a smaller group more along the lines of the Linux 
kernel, with a very small leadership core and more of a hierarchy than a 
huge committee.

Along the same lines, I favor a switch to a more meritocratic approach 
such as the lead appointments we've been discussing recently. Gentoo 
isn't a country government that needs to provide for every sick and 
needy person in its geography; it's a nonprofit with specific goals it 
needs to accomplish and should be run as such. In general, companies, 
including nonprofits, don't have checks and balances or long, drawn-out 
votes. What they do have is a board of trustees at the top, which can 
replace the leadership when it deems necessary.

Another major problem is the lack of continuity in our leadership, 
mainly because the whole group is re-elected en masse every year. At a 
minimum, even if we can't do the above changes, we should switch to a 
2-year term and have half the council up for election each year so new 
councils can start out quickly.

> - promoting innovation from individual developers instead of expecting
>   it to all come from the top, and

As I mentioned above, one of my focuses now is working on interesting 
standalone projects. I hope that every developer does the same; in 
addition, or besides whatever you do every day (maintain ebuilds, 
write/translate docs, etc.), consider starting a new project that has a 
clear end in sight and that will help Gentoo get better. It doesn't have 
to be anything big; and the great thing about projects with a finite 
length is that you actually finish them at some point.

> - getting rid of policies that were created for a single incident, 
>   because they should only exist for patterns of repeated problems.

I've elaborated on this elsewhere in this thread.

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.com

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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2011-06-10 12:48 ` Donnie Berkholz
  2011-06-10 15:23   ` Mike Gilbert
  2011-06-27  4:16   ` Donnie Berkholz
@ 2012-06-16 22:59   ` William Hubbs
  2012-06-17  1:19     ` David Abbott
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: William Hubbs @ 2012-06-16 22:59 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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I can't find the original message where I was nominated, but I accept
the nomination. My manifesto will follow soon.

William


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* Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Nominations for 2011 to 2012
  2012-06-16 22:59   ` William Hubbs
@ 2012-06-17  1:19     ` David Abbott
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: David Abbott @ 2012-06-17  1:19 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 6:59 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I can't find the original message where I was nominated, but I accept
> the nomination. My manifesto will follow soon.
>
> William
>

Hi William,
This is the thread from last year, this year's thread is "Gentoo
Council 2012/2013 election" and was started by jmbsvicetto. I updated
the status page [1] that you have accepted the nomination. You may
want to reply to the other thread also if you can find it.
Regards,
David
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/elections/council/2012/council-201206-nominees.xml
-- 
David Abbott (dabbott)
Gentoo
http://dev.gentoo.org/~dabbott/



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2011-06-15 10:20     ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-06-15  8:25   ` Patrick Lauer
2011-06-16 20:59   ` Petteri Räty
2011-06-23 19:39   ` Alex Alexander
2011-06-04 18:06 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-06-16  5:32   ` [gentoo-project] " Mart Raudsepp
2011-06-06 10:43 ` [gentoo-project] " Markos Chandras
2011-06-13 13:56   ` Dane Smith
2011-06-13 14:11     ` Samuli Suominen
2011-06-15 16:46       ` Kacper Kowalik
2011-06-16 19:49       ` Markos Chandras
2011-06-17  5:31       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-06-15 17:15   ` Theo Chatzimichos
2011-06-06 10:43 ` Markos Chandras
2011-06-11 19:14   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2011-06-10 12:48 ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-06-10 15:23   ` Mike Gilbert
2011-06-10 19:20     ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-06-27  4:16   ` Donnie Berkholz
2012-06-16 22:59   ` William Hubbs
2012-06-17  1:19     ` David Abbott
2011-06-10 23:37 ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
2011-06-12 19:01   ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-06-15  9:04   ` [gentoo-project] " Fabian Groffen
2011-06-16 20:45   ` [gentoo-project] " Sébastien Fabbro
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