From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40D431382C5 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2018 19:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03370E0843; Fri, 6 Apr 2018 19:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wr0-x230.google.com (mail-wr0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAD27E0829 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2018 19:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wr0-x230.google.com with SMTP id s18so2743680wrg.9 for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 12:46:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=mRmvsfaOWYAtbvGDkWNVv81e0RNWQalUsMpguzNTUQ0=; b=S1LUbYuIJ8AszZnqyqc7Awi8k1nYT0tI7Df0PL/CT3pblRvfgnuBKJ45BTeQiQMJWi skKsWwlRWiKqltaKZSpjItZ6Iewzp3eeDs5M38YHMGqv5rS1RBjHoqVnnDoy9ytX+ssO rqaDN2XQM9V+KilJyiBR5rHxHrsbl4EIECoQJ1mdTYN6TR8OnncDLRA0L9gZOzca72I/ 0yx4tLYr1ptI7TeCJxSxUgSEaWqB+S7p1mwdOZY0dAvBKV1LMVWANi5fySDQ6PSa9uvk WgXs06DPg0wN6VX92mIoKNZusloqjWkfLf2ePKXL1zJJgjikNgTBOJxTpPNJEhFAFM2o QCKw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mRmvsfaOWYAtbvGDkWNVv81e0RNWQalUsMpguzNTUQ0=; b=EWB9rdqm7Il3RlhAJEv8qypKOAQLuiBohEBteumXzkp5GFwa1ltL6VEBe8VQeitRw8 UqYz/CUeCqxHuX3wkUDTdZ8pgu2tTdQy8Q799M2h91MuAE7MBM70Y3mjE7CqNn1n+xKS s7KFQ2Dx+Y+KZPYHccp3SfeQivDeV12+ApgnzP0FKKLJ1Y52pdOfMZFmQ0dVXUXSlmsL /JRa0qWf2nIfla+LrtlZeQEgLWL+MW0xknVbi5FsZHH+qNU5Wi6quhPIGrsnb+JCL6gV wosw6uA6SkFh39WdKM4VvF42vVK/ajF0crm3JbhS7U8HcrIlCsn+blSICYifUioZw74/ C7tg== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7GihqHTYx9n9HNTY32u2D8kG39P1u78Tn3N7dzk/ybaUaXiLDIS qwSB0lga/7Tpw20tmY2Phg+nSCICZRTsYaMrjce4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx492u1xBSgUkYrGxKTB3H9Hg2DUl8fQv/emizdZxaa1F4ViC8qgeS9rqhylK/7aPSl1D1e8VOu1LeooI/dqPl0g= X-Received: by 10.223.143.86 with SMTP id p80mr22057999wrb.31.1523043992045; Fri, 06 Apr 2018 12:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: comprookie2000@gmail.com Received: by 10.28.5.135 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Apr 2018 12:46:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <871sfxkqo1.fsf@gentoo.org> <87lge4xw93.fsf@gentoo.org> <20180406021508.GA4824@linux1.home> <20180406023938.exac37p7gaccynll@gentoo.org> From: David Abbott Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 15:46:31 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fGsZcKvcSpOqm3XuPQPMvqcG-IY Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Meeting agenda - Council meeting 2018-04-08 To: Rich Freeman Cc: gentoo-project , Gentoo Trustees Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 270a66d3-4ac1-419c-82ab-57cb472cfbe9 X-Archives-Hash: e50559e65fea7575fbe751230b94fd11 On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 7:43 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:39 PM, Matthew Thode > wrote: >> On 18-04-05 21:15:08, William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 03, 2018 at 08:19:52AM -0500, Matthias Maier wrote: >>> >>> *snip* >>> >>> > 8. The council was requested to discuss and vote on the following motion [8] >>> > >>> > "The Gentoo council shall directly contact "Software in the Public Interest >>> > Inc." (SPI), with the intention of Gentoo becoming a SPI Associated Project, >>> > independent of the Gentoo Foundation." >>> >>> As a newly accepted member of the Gentoo foundation, I am making sure >>> the trustees are aware of this agenda item. Is it ok for us to join an >>> alternate organization such as is being proposed? >>> >> >> Nope, though I imagine the council already knows that (the council has >> requested this in the past iirc). >> > > I don't think he was suggesting that the Foundation should become > associated with SPI, but rather the distro. The wording is a bit > sloppy, IMO. > > Maybe something like this might convey what I suspect was the intent: > > The council shall directly contact "Software in the Public Interest > Inc." (SPI), with the intention of the project becoming a SPI > Associated Project, > independent of the Gentoo Foundation. > > I'd suggest a better model might be: > > The council shall directly contact "Software in the Public Interest > Inc." (SPI), with the intention of the project becoming a SPI > Associated Project, > in addition to being supported by the Gentoo Foundation. > > I think we're getting a bit hung up on the word "Gentoo" referring to > both a legal entity and a community/project supported by the entity. > Legally it only means the first. However, I can think of no legal > reason that the group of people associated with Gentoo couldn't also > associate with other legal entities, as long as Gentoo's legal rights > to the copyrights/trademarks are respected. That is just freedom of > association. > > IMO having multiple organizations supporting the distro could be > beneficial. I'd concede that it would be unconventional. Legally the > Gentoo name would only belong to one of them, but the work itself > could be funded and supported via any of them. > > If nothing else this might also be a way to reduce the workload on the > Foundation so that they can focus more on getting the paperwork caught > up vs actually having to pay for infra. So the funding is coming from the council? What will SPI use to pay infra with? > > -- > Rich Regards, -- David Abbott (dabbott) Gentoo Foundation Secretary http://dev.gentoo.org/~dabbott/