From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91531381F3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 326F321C0C5 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f53.google.com (mail-vb0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D59C921C020 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id fc21so164163vbb.40 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:07:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UEFXidZlfoZyodroUc+9xy5CEzYl4SYyU/ctcIasrPE=; b=unyMfVfYgM80/prLops9DuOHG232P8woTE3Z+q2UZHGsTAalejyn2Vt80+9M+UxAjc xc+muPuoNBOU/ypjl1kmtDh19fpk65VKjFRwEhJE6MHbzFcOhL3haZTTibVyvx2vCUiA cAXxDr+RLBgm5i31JCC2TlMOkrgzdGmcCTjb9EBas5UJh90tOopCniGSFc/wKR7z7bWk pWB7R35m65ZU8EOIQBLHDtmXUmvVsJL7Nd7AzjWAuNxmO261p9UIIM/5Usz+i6qBwr+T 1BE+wPG8KKB5QMkziWndB2vbDLHMIAOC1nEmeOql8P+o56M7L5Ns6BKc3JmbVfZ1aafz THjw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.16.12 with SMTP id m12mr10223573vca.14.1352884046911; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:07:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: yngwin@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.4.169 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:07:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> References: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:07:26 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YtHXWLSGuVyUrNQxzgF8uC6II-g Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization From: Ben de Groot To: gentoo-project Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54b46c409d7a604ce70dd50 X-Archives-Salt: f434b97b-302d-4899-b3fb-ac9997541501 X-Archives-Hash: 25dbff882df5446e73ed4e651989e501 --bcaec54b46c409d7a604ce70dd50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 13 November 2012 10:40, Richard Yao wrote: > Dear Everyone, > > It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev > has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes > Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance > seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes > that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.' > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505 > > After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus' > concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to > eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other > things. We will announce the project later this week. > I applaud this initiative. I would recommend you contact, and try to work together with, the existing fork of udev, which is available in layman's udev overlay. There is a corresponding thread on our forums. -- Cheers, Ben | yngwin Gentoo developer Gentoo Qt project lead, Gentoo Wiki admin --bcaec54b46c409d7a604ce70dd50 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 13 November 2012 1= 0:40, Richard Yao <ryao@gentoo.org> wrote:
Dear Everyone,

It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes
Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance
seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made ch= anges
that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.'
https://l= kml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505

After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus' concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to
eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other
things. We will announce the project later this week.


I applaud this initiative. I would recommend you= contact, and try to work together with, the existing fork of udev, which i= s available in layman's udev overlay. There is a corresponding thread o= n our forums.

--
Cheers,

Ben | yngwin
Gentoo developer
Gentoo Qt pro= ject lead, Gentoo Wiki admin
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