From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1D821382C5 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 16:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B4DCE0896; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 16:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ed1-x536.google.com (mail-ed1-x536.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::536]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89E81E0869 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 16:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ed1-x536.google.com with SMTP id s15so3204340edd.4 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 09:37:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gentoo-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=97rjPhy7GSYV9W483ZivmD4+qsHwLxI9i3qum7wamd4=; b=NpRpnSc+Aqkd2adMb/xL5vK8KEw3LRPiCkOmRNFkpS+T0mxau+pUiezVybNisS7+gs ZI299yr9rh+PHSwCqNbulGDMyF3E0qsWTcatDBvKahJxUl0TQ2K5N77XRYOLAlDFge2h Y1sWoCFTcee/SMKNAx/3DJ2IrnaxkWoDLX4950rWJzPGgj+CWKfrfEfBtVnFT+WwRLk6 7RGib5/UFOXFTW2NH51ojwp4rXQIaEqKjXC92ofwI9yrCbdZFeJqxxfTvj7l/SDPo6ja 4L40D0EEc1rBFhs/sKPdJGZy6V+h998ve6lEIvC8ATCzmfM3vbZqeSsnuPkPYTHRbrmO KPcQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=97rjPhy7GSYV9W483ZivmD4+qsHwLxI9i3qum7wamd4=; b=kDKfw9nSjm5PUBf7Y7LNQaXZWBEw8w+OIFzV3eAbO3Oc0LcxOrgxk61CADYQ863eLq aDVwc3rGpldPbj1GeFNPEFSQy55a333R8A0Q0SXFjwesI8jKvBqNAff4aZLcHtaAAvPk 5aj+zfK2nFWQIDhj8Y6acUM1RBaEGgFbkL76zkRS//QTinPcz5kTX8dfTz2tYf7uWPCW dQw89L8yLGTu1n4juYucgLatQh1aKC5D74TsbQja0XZfN0exkT8P21xOnYfiIUykPSuS lASf3qaULs+DSHBZDd2PuzWg1XIDZ6AHjGsyOTYaxaICdUS2nF8zFnLas/CPDuXp0f3J UEVA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530Q344MyNaDRgqOYjKq3AN0QeFpH99DSqqPUxU0ERnQosRKmBOJ bFhF5BB8/FkwGRt9aaezii6OgkARxZM1/hu/KPtHtunNOi09eA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzP0gWJbtdzGjVNMFUGcteLd3P4veAL+obYc3KV1E6oOSCQ+XSohY5tgBdEF9CTHl5saxFamvEakqItRalPWTA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:9:: with SMTP id d9mr12565750edu.67.1617899874680; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 09:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2061435.irdbgypaU6@pinacolada> <9661885f-88ac-c176-cc1f-258c4a7654fc@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <9661885f-88ac-c176-cc1f-258c4a7654fc@gentoo.org> From: Alec Warner Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 09:37:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2021-04-11 To: gentoo-project Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 965ef3e3-d29e-45eb-96c3-1844a9ac7fb4 X-Archives-Hash: c8391cda15087b64bfb0f11a8335a529 On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 8:03 AM Joonas Niilola wrote: > > > > On 4/8/21 5:09 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2021, 21:51 Joonas Niilola > > wrote: > > > > Why hasn't this been switched yet? > > > > > > We don't have the infrastructure to support this yet. E.g. if we told > > people to do it our anon git service would likely fall over and stop > > working. > > > > > I like the "yet" part. Meantime, default to Github/gentoo-mirror? It's admittedly a grey area here. We use CDNs for various web components (packages.gentoo.org for example) and we use a CDN for distfiles.gentoo.org. Is Github simply a CDN for gentoo.git? Its an open question we have discussed on the gentoo-nfp list. In general I'm not really sold on the benefits of git as a replication protocol; while I dislike running a global rsync network the maintenance of the network is basically nil from infra's end and so I don't feel significant pressure to move to git. Could you perhaps articulate why you think it's important for clients to move to git? -A > > One thing I was also thinking, how heavy is git as a package compared to > rsync in stage3. But to me, doesn't sound heavier at all, especially if > it's built with a lot of USE flags off. > > -- juippis >