On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:35 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. > >> wrote: > >>> On Monday, January 16, 2017 11:56:43 AM EST Rich Freeman wrote: > >>>> And nobody really has a choice about whether they'll handle lawsuits. > >>>> If you own property, then you better have a plan for handling > >>>> lawsuits. I suspect that SPI has thought this through a bit more than > >>>> we have historically. > >>> The SPI is not a legal management entity. You are confusing fiscal > with legal. > >>> > >> Again, I think you're thinking I'm saying I'm not. > >> > >> I'm not saying that the Gentoo Foundation should retain the legal > >> services of SPI. I'm saying that they should turn over their property > >> to SPI and cease to exist. At that point we don't need legal > >> services, because we legally don't exist. > > > > > > I have been looking at the SPI website, other than managing money and > > controlling assets, SPI does not appear to do anything else management > > wise. Do you have a link to the SPI website that says it does what you > > claim? > > I don't claim that SPI does anything other than manage money or assets. > > > > >>>> In any case, the point is that if Gentoo moves under SPI then there > >>>> would be no "Gentoo" to sue. "Gentoo" would be a trademark of SPI. > >>>> Any copyrights on our works that are held centrally would belong to > >>>> SPI. Our money would be stored in SPI bank accounts. So, if you want > >>>> our stuff, you have to sue SPI. > >>> Completely WRONG! > >>> > >>> "Project Independence > >>> SPI does not own, govern or control the associated projects." > >>> http://www.spi-inc.org/projects/relationship/ > >> They wouldn't own the project. They would own our assets. They > >> wouldn't control anything. > >> > > > > They would own the assets but I have found nothing that says Gentoo > > can't be sued still or that SPI would provide a defense for Gentoo. The > > only case I can think of, if the IRS comes after Gentoo and SPI is > > handling the money and paperwork. Then SPI would step in. > > > > How would somebody sue "Gentoo" when Gentoo is just a trademark of > SPI? There would be no legal entity called Gentoo to sue. That's the > whole point. If somebody wants to sue SPI then that becomes SPI's > problem, though obviously as a project we would cooperate with them to > minimize this risk. > A suit against "Gentoo" aka: https://www.gentoo.org/inside-gentoo/developers/ "A business partnership, a nonprofit organization, or a group of citizens can be parties in a lawsuit if the court accepts that group as representing 1 side of the dispute." But of course, IANAL ;) -A > > -- > Rich > >