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* [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2021-08-08
@ 2021-07-25 15:25 Ulrich Mueller
  2021-07-29 14:39 ` Ulrich Mueller
  2021-07-29 16:33 ` Alec Warner
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Ulrich Mueller @ 2021-07-25 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev-announce, gentoo-project

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In two weeks from now, the Council will meet again. This is the time
to raise and prepare items that the Council should put on the agenda
to discuss or vote on.

Please respond to this message with agenda items. Do not hesitate to
repeat your agenda item here with a pointer if you previously
suggested one (since the last meeting).

The agenda for the meeting will be sent out on Sunday 2021-08-01.

Please reply to the gentoo-project list.

Ulrich

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* Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2021-08-08
  2021-07-25 15:25 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2021-08-08 Ulrich Mueller
@ 2021-07-29 14:39 ` Ulrich Mueller
  2021-07-29 16:33 ` Alec Warner
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Ulrich Mueller @ 2021-07-29 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project

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> In two weeks from now, the Council will meet again. This is the time
> to raise and prepare items that the Council should put on the agenda
> to discuss or vote on.

Last month, we haven't come to a conclusion about changing our procedure
for banning EAPIs, and it doesn't look like we'll have anything ready
for the next meeting. Also EAPI 5 is deprecated since more than 3 years,
so its ban is overdue. (Longest time between deprecation and ban so far
was 2.5 years for EAPI 4.)

Therefore, let's go with the old procedure for now and vote on banning
EAPI 5 for new ebuilds in the Gentoo repository.

Ulrich

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* Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2021-08-08
  2021-07-25 15:25 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2021-08-08 Ulrich Mueller
  2021-07-29 14:39 ` Ulrich Mueller
@ 2021-07-29 16:33 ` Alec Warner
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Alec Warner @ 2021-07-29 16:33 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-project; +Cc: gentoo-nfp

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 8:25 AM Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> In two weeks from now, the Council will meet again. This is the time
> to raise and prepare items that the Council should put on the agenda
> to discuss or vote on.
>
> Please respond to this message with agenda items. Do not hesitate to
> repeat your agenda item here with a pointer if you previously
> suggested one (since the last meeting).
>
> The agenda for the meeting will be sent out on Sunday 2021-08-01.

I will open discussion (as I also did on #gentoo-council) regarding
changing the operating model of the project and the Gentoo Foundation
Inc.

One of the avenues for the future of the Foundation is to donate all
of its assets to another 501c3 corporation and file for dissolution.
This would result in the Gentoo Project at large needing to interact
with a new corporation (this is the 'umbrella company' strategy of
asset management.) The basic way these umbrellas work is that the open
source project nominates a liason (either a person or a board) and the
liaison handles the work of interacting with the umbrella. To further
this sort of interaction I am suggesting that we treat Gentoo
Foundation Inc. similarly.

 - Gentoo Foundation Inc is to be treated like an asset holding company.
 - It will hold marks, cash, and other assets.
 - It will file the proper paperwork for such things.
 - It will pay its expenses (call them operating fees or transaction
fees; e.g. most umbrellas take 10%; the Gentoo Foundation currently
takes more than that because our operating expenses are high.)

So in this model; aside from spending money on our expenses, we will
not approve any other expenses without approval from the Gentoo
Project. So structurally, how should the Gentoo Project elect its
representation?
 - Who approves expenses?
 - How are decisions about expenses made?
 - What are the goals of spending (do we have project goals,
transparency goals, reduction of conflict of interest goals?)

I don't expect to resolve this before the council meeting FWIW; but
it's a conversation I want to kick off.

-A

>
> Please reply to the gentoo-project list.
>
> Ulrich


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