From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7346138334 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 12:43:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A758BE0942; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 12:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x134.google.com (mail-lf1-x134.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A3D9E08FF for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 12:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x134.google.com with SMTP id 5so11574661lft.12 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 05:43:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gentoo-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mQUTIUusWmi+FQVi0qNbMn/LAbtEu9ahvYDPBtOznFA=; b=yN0cNX3Jm7IzbvEul0rQM0X2/F+IY28T4zQ4neYQgDzAWZXSymHckUbPFor7QL0moD kZiW6+X+QQB/VZtuBBk+qAkuxOreKI8yZr+tN1Z1SmPNC1O/NC4g/3o27DMWpyqUKZ7W GXh4arXWcik/nPd5NqSrK8kM3bp0LSsfpV7CtvWUG+KrTwomk7SsBWHFq3EAjVyqNPRD FIaQO9pKr6Snbyl4VgdTCN3Is7rh6nHneU0Z+v0VNbScUbS2q5gRAbe+kcgo08ewEwJX KIKxumdeOb0zxTxLpb0dpCbDntin7yiCTXCSdGtuCnEp3TtwzdCDvHAhiT6ByeJV+Iyu VM5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=mQUTIUusWmi+FQVi0qNbMn/LAbtEu9ahvYDPBtOznFA=; b=Ge49tcUeivBGo037PgbT6ChNLqZ8iz4xG7qLejAD03dDMSs357GvRekR1CKeI3BuwD h45CmWjgWD+2U0/3N0O7LTEOtPzKMMuebsAhV9/zswHiMQBRuo9yiNgjFEav7HxfRlC/ sxsMJH4gADd5OYlwagBQ1SH2p42Q/f/MYq25SXyXIrphzDDGE4v2efevJh+0RMyqcPX4 giWP3psGvja6a+gK9elyJ3mU5ZtLDEb+3g63/uBBh2odRauh29TcDcQWHH+JInu4c/mZ aDd06jRCJRexTP/WgNXpdAjl760q0j0vwkMS01fdzQ7sE0wNA2mG4CyPbDjMeBKN/muL gxHA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUg2f2W5uzsMHrUubIubKSF2O4Kwy7a0aIYauT3NvwfOpJiS+Ey uTu57XW92EbxGvHuCPe9mR8L3FKT/HeVrycDj+lRp16cPig= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxd0nJ2SG6F/ZOWukgGIpn2mOabfA5nsxOi59BWqdrqJcPzl4jpMMaQSKf3EgNjd/vMmfB4ZfMwsldCx+jJ2WY= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:43ba:: with SMTP id t26mr9815243lfl.10.1554295421847; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 05:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190401032055.GA9497@linux1.home> <4bbfc34f-335f-5521-310a-b66ffd0d9a9a@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4bbfc34f-335f-5521-310a-b66ffd0d9a9a@gentoo.org> From: Alec Warner Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2019 08:43:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2019-04-14 To: gentoo-project Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007ee58e05859f9a2b" X-Archives-Salt: 664487ab-10af-43e5-85f3-794fdd7cc0e7 X-Archives-Hash: 18ca9f2b83af277eefadfadb80333e66 --0000000000007ee58e05859f9a2b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 7:31 AM NP-Hardass wrote: > On 3/31/19 11:20 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > two weeks from today (2019-04-14) the Gentoo Council will meet at > > 19:00 UTC in the #gentoo-council channel on freenode. > > > > Please reply to this message with any items you would like us to put on > > the agenda to discuss or vote on. > > > > Thanks much, > > > > William > > > > I'd like the council to discuss the issue and general trend of actions > (particularly recent) to restrict the ability of developers to > contribute to Gentoo. In my view, efforts are being made to make > contributions as users substantially easier, while efforts are being > made to make being a developer substantially harder. The months of > studying, quiz taking, and interviews set a bar that should make > contributions from those individuals that become developers easier than > the average user, not more difficult. > This is a pretty vague statement, are there particular things you want the council to review; or just the 'general trend'? I'm not aware of any recent changes to the developer onboarding process. -A > > -- > NP-Hardass > > --0000000000007ee58e05859f9a2b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 7:31 AM NP-Har= dass <NP-Hardass@gentoo.org= > wrote:
On 3= /31/19 11:20 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> two weeks from today (2019-04-14) the Gentoo Council will meet at
> 19:00 UTC in the #gentoo-council channel on freenode.
>
> Please reply to this message with any items you would like us to put o= n
> the agenda to discuss or vote on.
>
> Thanks much,
>
> William
>

I'd like the council to discuss the issue and general trend of actions<= br> (particularly recent) to restrict the ability of developers to
contribute to Gentoo.=C2=A0 In my view, efforts are being made to make
contributions as users substantially easier, while efforts are being
made to make being a developer substantially harder.=C2=A0 The months of studying, quiz taking, and interviews set a bar that should make
contributions from those individuals that become developers easier than
the average user, not more difficult.

T= his is a pretty vague statement, are there particular things you want the c= ouncil to review; or just the 'general trend'?
I'm no= t aware of any recent changes to the developer onboarding process.

-A
=C2=A0

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NP-Hardass

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