From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D43A01382C5 for ; Mon, 3 May 2021 16:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9A95E0824; Mon, 3 May 2021 16:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ed1-x535.google.com (mail-ed1-x535.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::535]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94904E05AC for ; Mon, 3 May 2021 16:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ed1-x535.google.com with SMTP id y26so7040547eds.4 for ; Mon, 03 May 2021 09:40:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gentoo-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SpeMSWD9NFDogYd5YX92xN2/E/4hNgHmM0qiegRgYxI=; b=Pi5VKE7ycyg5KelHClmFpxVbeWqO+EmiWZx6Y3WaBNRDwflzHpWKC42ZHcmwo1LIOQ ICL53INhE0Tqc+LFUyYVvg2LytNc9hd4SIXuUhxe0kpLjULFyQykHn6xbjCWBdPLv01b CxcpEBqiphTvKaKqeqI8eTRmrmY3MQ61F6OY2nwwByMJfIKc4LIyPPxo8IUUZVEEnfz9 wIgpL+Mzft7+Ob7WuOKCLX34qAscOg4c0WuodJAFHAiHeLOGx7lJXNNAtGPWZaa9UczH mn+LZQB6yybDMmIfMaE7rKNmM8p+8DCdCLfarcQ0eZ7HeCZUo454EQTrtVHJLgDa3jdD uJFw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SpeMSWD9NFDogYd5YX92xN2/E/4hNgHmM0qiegRgYxI=; b=fP733CUCs6QAClQpckb1Ajo10H6L26yJyq9PxLNGQUxibgbjlfcdV21jVhSfx3SLhF W/tyEHTibHP3uw4oardQCDOyQMiNQrJhb2FUglh1AimN9zOpdlYNbtlenkxaHS3zcrfi F2qXFZ1cViOEDa1yHfll05j3vuNvUIJzfkgHl4q6BW6NkqaPXhJZTWXe+Yk1Ra3+qPOV pO4aMEUkMJVLUHUma4dOHFx5ReXKkVNGPxPf5c7PX/InpiEWbjBND+tPy3xUDsbGjGsG I7sskmBOW6hwdLISLJZGoyZN/KrAu71x2qbrrcWhNlaKaP0xYY4bo8J9pQcdGh8rAMZc KVDg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532iq2LZ8tZvHkzbnd/qLOKEN7tJbeo3rkxKyvI9hA/aDwTB70C9 hrpuZOtWyfPpRjtNqyNcXn6j8Bbp7tUEeFqO331TlxnR1kk4Mw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzek7o2136LFWBFWSq92+eRUsOBQ2Mxv3r0Ty0yTC6ndmBOso7lYlagPekrLwjYPf5ea1sGPGdVEP9nLgHQKus= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:17d7:: with SMTP id s23mr21143364edy.66.1620060029796; Mon, 03 May 2021 09:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5209354.7s5MMGUR32@pinacolada> <023f7d6e-d145-6233-a120-cfa25135eb3f@gentoo.org> <4445945.8hzESeGDPO@pinacolada> In-Reply-To: <4445945.8hzESeGDPO@pinacolada> From: Alec Warner Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 09:40:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2021-05-09 To: gentoo-project Cc: Thomas Deutschmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 03463feb-8b13-45d3-a9a4-e1fc54424c17 X-Archives-Hash: db698b98ad5ea8a49d61e4b862f287cf On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 8:48 AM Andreas K. Huettel wr= ote: > > Am Montag, 3. Mai 2021, 17:31:03 CEST schrieb Thomas Deutschmann: > > On 2021-05-03 17:04, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > Please don't go the "we are not responsible for anything" route, > > > that's the fastest way to obstruct any productivity. > > > > Well, I don't know what we will discuss and what will be the > > outcome. But imagine we would all agree and send a request to > > foundation to stop spending AWS credits for X immediately. > > > > Foundation has to reject this request by law because such a request > > must come from a natural person. > > Seriously, if the council would send a polite and friendly request to > the foundation, and the trustees would outright refuse it only for > that formal reason, I would consider that hostile and unconstructive > behavior. Law doesn't come in because the trustees themselves can > introduce motions. > > We should try to work together. +1, if I did not make this clear in our IRC conversation; I want to make it clear now. -A > > If some of us don't do that, we need to find a better solution for > Gentoo. That's why (following the ugly debates around Ian) I want a > single elected body to be responsible. > > -- > Andreas K. H=C3=BCttel > dilfridge@gentoo.org > Gentoo Linux developer > (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)